12-29-2010, 05:09 AM
Interesting thread. I wish I had read it sooner.
We are not nothing but our thoughts and beliefs, by the way. Beliefs make up a lot of what one part of us is. There is also the self, which is being guided by the beliefs, and other stuff as well.
Andrew's comment on the Law of Attraction shows how one is the product of more than their thoughts. A person is a product of their natural responsive inclinations, the way they experience the world around them, and what they experience as a result, among other things. My experiences etc. have led me to a very different conclusion about the law of attraction. I have seen it in action countless times in ways that defy what Andrew believes. Andrew has not. So for him, that makes more sense; for me, what I have concluded makes more sense. I'm not saying Andrew is wrong, or even less right. It just seems to boil down to different manner of thinking and different experiences. How you think affects what you experience, as well as how you interpret it.
I can say, though, that I have more than a few stories that would be ridiculous to explain as statistical chance. If my experiences have just been random chance, then I am the luckiest man alive. I myself would never believe half of what I have experienced, if I didn't experience it. But there's more going on than simply the law of attraction. That is only one of a set of interacting laws, and it is usually the only one mentioned because it's simplified, and people like everything to be simple and pre-digested these days. You can't take a tree and reduce it to a leaf, and then expect it to function as a tree. A leaf is a leaf; not a tree. Same with anything else. The whole system has to be understood, not just one small piece, taken out of context.
That said, a quarter with a red dot in the middle is entirely possible to "manifest". And one way to do so is exactly what Andrew stated: you can simply go get one and paint a red dot on it yourself. The result of energy directed by will is what attraction and manifestation are about, so to some degree, any action you make is going to be an avenue for the expression of the Law of Attraction. That certainly isn't the only way you can get results, but it is a valid way.
But why bother trying to manifest such a silly thing? Try manifesting something that is meaningful to you. The more deeply involved you are with getting it, the more you are attached emotionally to the outcome, the more you are passionately wanting or needing it, the more energy and focus you'll naturally give it, and the better your subconscious will understand the request and have the means (energy) to make something happen. The universe we live in is responsive to us, as long as we provide the right conditions for triggering the response we desire. And yes, it is possible to trigger a response purely by thinking about something you want. But the less action you take physically, the more energy you must expend in other directions to trigger the desired result, because "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch". That's why the manifestation subliminals take months to work, instead of weeks; typically, when I do an active manifestation, it takes about 2 weeks for me to get what I want from the process. But passive manifestation takes a lot longer. Less energy, passion, desire and focus per unit of time.
If you want to use the law of attraction, there are also some other rules you need to observe. The chiefest of which is... observe silence. When you choose a goal, and you tell someone else about that goal, you involve their mental and emotional responses to your goal in the manifestation process. And in the beginning, that desired outcome is so simple, so undeveloped as a physical thing that it is easy to destroy it before it ever gets close to manifesting by telling someone who responds in the wrong way. I have experienced that first hand more than a few times. So it's an observed rule of practice for a lot of practitioners of the art of manifestation or attraction that they keep silent about their goal until they are finished manifesting it. And it always appears to the skeptic to be coincidence, when it does. But even if you accept the idea that it might be coincidence, how many "coincidences" can you just explain away like that? Eventually, the statistical odds will become overwhelmingly against that explanation if you know how to manifest properly, and do it more than a few times.
As for self confidence, I am glad you're getting results from the program, but keep in mind that it's aimed at one goal, and you may need a boost in a number of different areas, from what I am hearing. So don't think that self confidence subliminal is going to necessarily be helpful with every challenge you have. But definitely keep going.
The first time I used it, I didn't notice anything at all for the first two weeks, and then BAM, I wasn't even recognizable to my friends anymore. My confidence went through the roof, and it felt awesome. Over the years since, it's slowly been increasing, and I have noticed something about myself. Every time I push myself into something I didn't think I could do previously, I re-define what "normal" is. What I have accomplished at this point, seems normal to me - but 5 years ago, I would never have been able to believe such things were even remotely possible for me. And you're right, subliminals often work in slow, subtle ways, which are most obvious looking back. Or, looking up from the hole you dig yourself if you stop using them too soon. lol
We are not nothing but our thoughts and beliefs, by the way. Beliefs make up a lot of what one part of us is. There is also the self, which is being guided by the beliefs, and other stuff as well.
Andrew's comment on the Law of Attraction shows how one is the product of more than their thoughts. A person is a product of their natural responsive inclinations, the way they experience the world around them, and what they experience as a result, among other things. My experiences etc. have led me to a very different conclusion about the law of attraction. I have seen it in action countless times in ways that defy what Andrew believes. Andrew has not. So for him, that makes more sense; for me, what I have concluded makes more sense. I'm not saying Andrew is wrong, or even less right. It just seems to boil down to different manner of thinking and different experiences. How you think affects what you experience, as well as how you interpret it.
I can say, though, that I have more than a few stories that would be ridiculous to explain as statistical chance. If my experiences have just been random chance, then I am the luckiest man alive. I myself would never believe half of what I have experienced, if I didn't experience it. But there's more going on than simply the law of attraction. That is only one of a set of interacting laws, and it is usually the only one mentioned because it's simplified, and people like everything to be simple and pre-digested these days. You can't take a tree and reduce it to a leaf, and then expect it to function as a tree. A leaf is a leaf; not a tree. Same with anything else. The whole system has to be understood, not just one small piece, taken out of context.
That said, a quarter with a red dot in the middle is entirely possible to "manifest". And one way to do so is exactly what Andrew stated: you can simply go get one and paint a red dot on it yourself. The result of energy directed by will is what attraction and manifestation are about, so to some degree, any action you make is going to be an avenue for the expression of the Law of Attraction. That certainly isn't the only way you can get results, but it is a valid way.
But why bother trying to manifest such a silly thing? Try manifesting something that is meaningful to you. The more deeply involved you are with getting it, the more you are attached emotionally to the outcome, the more you are passionately wanting or needing it, the more energy and focus you'll naturally give it, and the better your subconscious will understand the request and have the means (energy) to make something happen. The universe we live in is responsive to us, as long as we provide the right conditions for triggering the response we desire. And yes, it is possible to trigger a response purely by thinking about something you want. But the less action you take physically, the more energy you must expend in other directions to trigger the desired result, because "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch". That's why the manifestation subliminals take months to work, instead of weeks; typically, when I do an active manifestation, it takes about 2 weeks for me to get what I want from the process. But passive manifestation takes a lot longer. Less energy, passion, desire and focus per unit of time.
If you want to use the law of attraction, there are also some other rules you need to observe. The chiefest of which is... observe silence. When you choose a goal, and you tell someone else about that goal, you involve their mental and emotional responses to your goal in the manifestation process. And in the beginning, that desired outcome is so simple, so undeveloped as a physical thing that it is easy to destroy it before it ever gets close to manifesting by telling someone who responds in the wrong way. I have experienced that first hand more than a few times. So it's an observed rule of practice for a lot of practitioners of the art of manifestation or attraction that they keep silent about their goal until they are finished manifesting it. And it always appears to the skeptic to be coincidence, when it does. But even if you accept the idea that it might be coincidence, how many "coincidences" can you just explain away like that? Eventually, the statistical odds will become overwhelmingly against that explanation if you know how to manifest properly, and do it more than a few times.
As for self confidence, I am glad you're getting results from the program, but keep in mind that it's aimed at one goal, and you may need a boost in a number of different areas, from what I am hearing. So don't think that self confidence subliminal is going to necessarily be helpful with every challenge you have. But definitely keep going.
The first time I used it, I didn't notice anything at all for the first two weeks, and then BAM, I wasn't even recognizable to my friends anymore. My confidence went through the roof, and it felt awesome. Over the years since, it's slowly been increasing, and I have noticed something about myself. Every time I push myself into something I didn't think I could do previously, I re-define what "normal" is. What I have accomplished at this point, seems normal to me - but 5 years ago, I would never have been able to believe such things were even remotely possible for me. And you're right, subliminals often work in slow, subtle ways, which are most obvious looking back. Or, looking up from the hole you dig yourself if you stop using them too soon. lol
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
