(07-03-2024, 08:08 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: I too don't want any of the new age masculinity crap because frankly that's what most of us already are or were..."modern males" (for those of us that worked to undo all the brainwashing and feminizing).
I second this and I hope Shannon will clarify exactly what the sub will be about when the time comes. I think there's a small disconnect in what Shannon/Benjamin and myself see as masculine.
Shannon seems to be more along the lines of focusing on stoicism/ascended alpha while Benjamin and I think alike and want the more traditional masculine idea.
While I do appreciate stoicism and my women have called me stoic and like that about me I really wish I was more traditionally masculine. A lot more confidence, drive, focus, determination, competitiveness, more aggressiveness (in terms of being a go getter). There's so much focus on being stoic for men now a days while they struggle with drive, purpose, passion. Most guys seem to be focusing on being stoic rather than the fundamental traditional masculine traits which have served them for thousands of years.
I see this all the time..most women I come across are now the men of the past. They are super confident, go getters, driven, focused on their goals.
I do like the Ascended Alpha concept, it's kind of similar to how I was saying it's a balancing act in the previous post. I don't think the concept exclused any of those things as all of those are very needed. I say that in that I know I lack alot of that but would like to have more of it.
I don't totally get your point of Stoic vs Traditonal Masculinity. As i'd see Traditional Masculinity as stoic in that you aren't overly emotional. But i'm seeing more that it's not about pushing these emotions down, ignoring them as they will come out in unhealthy ways, but as having emotional control.
Despite what all these women and society tries to tell us now about "men should be emotional" I guarantee 99% of them lose respect for men who are overly emotional all the time, crying over little things, not being able to handle situations that come up cos they are too busy crying. And funnily enough they tell us "show your emotion" and we are like "ok well fuck you i'm fucking angry about how society is treating men" and then they ridicule you and don't want to hear it suddenly. Apparently it has to be some invisible list of approved emotions or something.
To revisit it, I found the Ascendant Alpha post again and will reread it. For anyone interested -
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-What-...7#pid34957
Rereading it again, I like it. Leading out of people wanting to legitimately follow you, respect you being inspired by you as opposed to they are intimidated so have to follow you. I'd definately love to see this definition expanded upon whether it's for this masculinity program or when AM7 comes out so we can better understand what it's developing. Sure it may not be necessarily needed, but I love to know this stuff.
