01-16-2024, 03:23 PM
(01-15-2024, 10:54 PM)Topaz Wrote:(01-15-2024, 01:23 PM)Frosted Wrote: This is just a guess, but perhaps you seem intimidating to the women who used to be attracted to you, but you’re not quite at the level where the higher quality women will accept you easily. With struggle you can probably have sex with this type of woman, but it’ll likely take more growth before it becomes easy.
As someone who’s been using subs from Shannon for almost a decade (including AM6 5 times and WM2 and SM3 each once), I recommend switching to a sub that’s at least 5.75g after this run of AM6. Unless AM6 is the perfect sub for you right now and it’s worth sacrificing orders of magnitude of effectiveness, then I recommend switching to something like OGSF2 or the upcoming EPHRA 5.11G. These are less exciting than AM6 and but are also about self mastery and will set you up better for AM7 when it comes out a few months from now.
I don’t recommend another 6 month commitment since AM7 might be out as early as April this year.
On a positive note, you seem to be doing a lot better than what I estimate the average user of this forum to be at when they first start subs.
I have years of experience with meditation and affirmations, so my baseline is now above that of the average man. I used to have social anxiety as a child and teenager. With each passing year, my confidence has grown and grown. So much so that I am almost confident in every situation, but I know I can do even better! And I feel AM6 helps me with that.
I would probably do Optimal Physical Health for a month, then AOS (4g) and Become Irresistibly Attractive To Beautiful Women (4g) for a few weeks before starting SM. I am looking forward to SM
What was your experience with SM and WM?
Back in the day, some guys were really excited about AOS, and I didn't try it; I did my affirmations instead. And some guys said it's so good they stopped doing affirmations, or they did them in conjunction with AOS for much better results. I know it's very old technology, but I'm just curious to see what I missed out on and want to know what these guys are talking about. I hope that makes sense. It's an interesting experience for me to research it
I don't think I'll be trying the subs you suggested soon, even though I do want to, because I want to try something sex-related first.
Please share your experience with AM, SM, and WM. I hope you got some good results!
Fair enough. I was pretty sure you wouldn’t take my suggestions, but I had to try since it’s what I would’ve done for my past self.
To give my results with WM2 and SM3 context I need to give you a bit of background. I was probably a 1.5 in mental health before I started subs. I used WM2 after only my first run of AM6 and my foundation wasn’t strong enough to get good results. At the time I felt like WM2 made me too soft, but it was because I was trying to maintain boundaries by intimidation. WM2 did improve my social anxiety and social skills though and I became more likeable. I just didn’t have the foundation to become more attractive to women. I did enjoy WM2 at the time on an internal level because it made me feel good.
Lesson: WM2 aims to make you a friendly, high status and cool guy. Don’t use it if you don’t already have ease with boundaries and have high self confidence/self esteem and have no trouble asserting yourself and being a man in general. I imagine WM2 with a strong foundation to be a blast.
I used DAOSI I think next (the original version of DMSI) and got pretty intense results. For example 1 girl was looking around confused for a bit then suddenly locks eyes with me and then very obviously and unnaturally turns to show her butt to me. Fun stuff lol. I think I have an original copy on 1 of my old laptops in storage. I’ll have to extract it sometime. Unless the new stuff works because it seems to be doing better than some older versions. I might still do it sometime just to compare.
SM3 came after another run of AM6 after that. I still wasn’t ready for SM3. I noticed I became more attractive to women and I ended up attracting a girl and it was leading to sex but I self sabatoged due to fear. I became afraid of “losing my attraction to women”. I think I was afraid of losing my attachment to women. It’s what had been driving me all that time. I also had (and still have some as of this writing) deep debilitating sexual insecurities. I quit at stage 4. All the bullshit I had compressed inside myself seemed to explode and I became debilitated by overwhelming panic attacks.
Weirdly enough a lot of my positive SM3 results came afterwards. It made me more comfortable with sex. I became more skillful and “manly” in the bedroom. I wasn’t technically a virgin before subs but I might as well have been. I had a string of sex after SM3. Perhaps what we call “bloom” in retrospect. Crazy I still got results with how crazy the resistance was.
After that I focused on my base mostly. Now I’m in a much healthier place.
So here’s what I remember of my journey. I omitted anything below 3 months (also I don’t remember lol):
AM6>WM2>AM6>SM3>AM6>AM6>AM6>UMS1>LTU6 (2 years)>OF>OGSF>UMS2(3 months)>OGSF2(current)