11-13-2020, 04:43 PM
(11-06-2020, 02:58 PM)rono Wrote:(11-04-2020, 06:44 PM)Shannon Wrote: What you may not realize is that resisting being "told what to do" - which is what it sounds like her subconscious is trying to do - is based in a fear of losing self control. Eating is frequently associated with survival by the subconscious, and may be associated with love, security and other basic needs as well. If for some reason her subconscious has concluded, using that delightfully illogical "logic" that the subconscious uses, that losing weight or eating less frequently or less is a threat to its survival, or its "being loved" or "being secure", it may resist. This could be a deep fear that makes no sense logically, and remember that it is actually quite common for the conscious and subconscious minds to disagree on what they want for these reasons. One can think logically, and one can't; this can lead to extreme disagreements between them.
Strange that she would resist. I suppose it depends on the exact nature of the suggestions being used (which are proprietary). Because two years ago, she lost the weight on her own, just be controlling what she ate and by adopting a new exercise program. I do know some of her stubborn beliefs, one is "all calories are the same". She only most of the time complies with a protocol that would prevent insulin spikes (which encourage body fat). She doesn't think a 'small amount of carbs, be they sweets, etc. will 'hurt'. I'm very strict about this and it maybe a factor in why it's easier for me to control my own weight. She also seems to feel she has the 'right' to snacks if she stays more-or-less at the calorie level she is seeking. There may be some 'magical thinking' going on since we started the sub where she thinks that it should just work automatically whether she changes her habits consciously or not.
It worked for me by making it easier to simply change my habits around eating, not finish things on the plate if I noticed I was starting to feel full. In her case, she continues to finish up the salad or fruit left on the table if I don't eat it. On the salad, I don't think she is really noting how much calories she puts on it in olive oil (her favorite dressing). On the fruit, she just likes fruit so much that she eats whatever she cuts up even it if is more than what the agreed upon serving should be. "It's easier to eat it than to throw it away or save it" is a thought process I've observed that has not changed with the sub.
Maybe the suggestions just don't hit the right 'notes' for her, given her biases?
What you describe her doing, on the contrary, tells me that the script is working, but she is doing everything in her power to sabotage it. In this case, self deception and possibly some self delusion, and trying to blame the program for her own choices.
If she was doing fine before just by willpower, and now she needs help, then her will has changed focus. The core of this will no doubt, again, be a fear or fears. She is definitely trying to find excuses to sabotage the program. That wouldn't be necessary if it wasn't doing something to achieve its goals. She just, at some level, has decided that the goals of this program are to be resisted and avoided for some reason. Fear of losing control, or a fear of achieving the goal weight, or both, are solid bets.
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