08-01-2020, 11:22 AM
(07-31-2020, 10:39 AM)Shannon Wrote:(07-31-2020, 07:57 AM)rono Wrote: Hi Shannon,
Thanks for the tips! I will try this. I thought, though, that the critique of american weight perception was that we all want to be 'Barbie and Ken' and tend to think that we should be lighter than we are to the point of obsessing over dieting. So perhaps your program is suggesting to my wife that she should be even lighter than she idealizes... interesting thought. According to 'Medical News Today' her ideal weight for her height is anywhere from 110lbs to 140lbs. She thinks of her ideal weight as 130-135. Perhaps I should suggest that maybe her ideal might be lower to soften her expectations.
Over time, the majority of Americans have become overweight and or obese. There are those who are not, but that tends to be the few with extremely high metabolisms and those who see what's happening to everyone else and are actively working against it.
I'm not speaking to the validity of the "Barbie and Ken" physique, in either direction. But it is very telling that we as a society only started having issues with this as an acceptable aspiration when the majority were overweight and or obese!
The rest of the world seems to be trying to get fat by adopting our McDonalds and Donuts society. I wish they would just shut down McDonald's and the like worldwide and let us keep our ridiculous eating habits, but that's a rant for another day.
The majority of Americans look at Barbie and Ken and think it's unrealistic at best, or impossible at worst, because they are overweight and believe overweight is normal because our society caters to whomever has money. Flattery will get you rich, apparently.
This is why (some) Americans want to lose weight. There's a very high probability that if you pick one out of a crowd at random, they really are overweight! Unfortunately, big business has confused those people into endless useless dieting and doing things that won't result in their goal of weight loss. Going to the gym, I saw two groups of people. Group A was fit, and they made that their lifestyle. Group B was "trying to lose weight", was almost never fit, and 9 times out of 10, were prone to work out for 30 to 120 minutes, and then go have fast food. Dieting, as we Americans have come to understand it through the corporate orgy of weight loss products, means doing bizarre stuff that we really don't want to do, that may affect our weight slightly in the short run, but won't be sustainable.
When you do it right, there's a big difference between American style "dieting" and having a healthy diet. It's a habitual, automatic lifestyle choice when it's done right. You can eat whatever you want, as long as you eat it in the right amounts per portion and eat it in with the right timing. Chocolate cake is seen by American "dieters" as the Holy Grail. They dream of it. They crave it. Then they give in and "cheat", and "start dieting again" immediately after. This happens because they think they need to deny themselves. Not true; they do need to control themselves, though. About 1/2 to 1/3rd the normal "American sized" serving of chocolate cake, and eaten occasionally, but not frequently, will do it. You never crave what is plentifully available and which you are enjoying. But the belief here is, I must suffer to lose weight. I must deny myself. I must not have what I want. I must only eat what I don't like. That doesn't work - unless you want to gain weight.
Appetite Suppressant 5.75G simply re-shapes your natural appetite to allow you to eat whatever you want, whenever you want, but only eat amounts that result in your ideal weight regardless. No denial means no craving means no binging, and that means much easier achievement of the goal weight. The weight falls off, you never "tried" to do anything and you're enjoying what you eat. Win-win-win.
One thing you should point out to her is that her ideal weight might not be what she consciously assumes it is. Let go of expectations of what it is, and allow the program to do its thing.
Quote:I do lift weights, and that is in order to build/maintain muscle as I get into my later years where muscle mass is a key indicator for longevity and quality of life. Is this what you mean by 'lift weights'? I'm certainly not an athlete, but I do lift weights (and fairly heavy for a non-athlete e.g. bench press with dumbells of 75lbs each). I don't want to lose muscle mass/strength.
If you are an athelete or a body builder, your goal is going to be a lot more muscle and less fat, leading to a very different "ideal weight". For those people, weight alone is not enough metrics. They also need to consider things like muscle mass and fat percentage. So Appetite Suppressant is not designed for them right now.
If you lift weights to maintain a healthy muscle mass, but you're not body building, or trying to follow the body cycle of cutting and then gaining, you don't need to worry about the weight the program will bring you to. The optimal weight for males 16+ who are not body builders and atheletes takes into account their natural need for more muscle mass than a woman needs to be optimally healthy.
Quote:I will start her today on the louder setting and watch more closely ramp up and plateau, etc. I assume the execution period means she actually would drop weight at that time, correct?
Thanks again!
You may not see her drop weight right away. What you should observe is either a stronger resistance response (hopefully not) or a stronger adherence to the goals of the program.
What happens during the days off is pure execution, so it should be most pronounced around days 1-2-3 of the rest cycle. When it starts fading out, start her back on it.
The goal of the program is to result in weight loss that is at the optimal speed for achieving it easily, and maintaining it easily. Losing too much too fast causes a yoyo effect, and people end up heavier than they started. We want to see a weight loss of 2-3 pounds a week, ideally. Once the program is working fully, that will become a normal regular occurrence until you achieve your ideal weight, at which time you will naturally enter maintenance mode by simple virtue of the fact that you've been eating the exact right amount for maintaining that level of weight the whole time, which is why you lost weight in the first place.
Hi Shannon,
Sounds like it should apply perfectly to us.
Neither of us are seriously overweight, my wife is a couple pounds beyond the recommendations for her height, and my ideal is at the top, or just over what is recommended by, at least the 'reputable' medical establishment.
I'm not a body builder, I just want plenty of muscle mass and strength so I can stay healthy and strong into the next couple of decades of life (God willing) and throw the grandkids around in the pool, do my gardening, etc.
My wife distrusts dieting and prefers lifestyle changes. We have had great success for a long time on the Intermittent Fasting sort of pattern which has worked perfectly for me and did for her for several years before her weight gradually crept up at a rate of a couple pounds a year, so it wasn't super noticeable if you weren't watching critically (which I don't).
I don't see any sign of resistance, and I talked to her about the goals of the program in greater detail this morning and she says she's on board with letting the program choose her weight. She said she'd love to go lower than 130lbs but is happy at 135, too, so she seems flexible enough in her expectations.
I do not know for sure, but I suspect part of her issue has been small munching of calories between meals that simply adds up over time. She's mentioned this as a possibility in the past and I've seen a few indications of late, but it may be just that most of it is either unconscious on her part or underground/hidden from me. I assume that the program will address this by helping her be aware of how many calories she's consuming as well as how many she should be consuming.
Personally, I've dropped a couple pounds since the beginning of the program. Depending on how I count (which is a little tricky since I have occasional 'high' days where I may eat two meals and a snack vs. others where I basically only eat dinner.) I have lost as of today between 2 and 5 pounds. A very sane rate, and about what I would have lost in a similar period if I had decided to lose weight intentionally by scaling back my calories.
I kind of liked your rant against junk food. Especially since we began intermittent fasting and even back when we were just counting calories (doing this for a decade now), we just stopped doing junk food, except as a splurge on special occasions a couple times a year. Neither of us feel that great after doing this, so we have gravitated toward more healthy fast food options also.
Overall, for our well-being the main thing that's helped both physically (aches and pains-wise) and clear-headedness ( my preferred indicators) eating only healthy fats has been the key. I don't tolerate vegetables well since I had my appendix out a few years ago, but emphasizing fats and getting a dose or two of fruits and veggies has been working perfectly for me/us. Also, our doctors are quite impressed with our blood work-- mine asks me for advice, hers has told her "I haven't seen blood work this good in my practice for a long time". So we have the scientific backing for what we're doing.
Just the weight thing for her. And hopefully the Appetite Suppressant will kick in and help her with that once I get the ideal pattern for her dialed in.
Thanks! I'll keep you posted.