(12-20-2018, 07:30 PM)Shannon Wrote: My point is, there's always another way to interpret it. Sometimes it takes a lot of contemplation to find all of what it could mean, and even more to find the meaning. I didn't have the dream, and you didn't describe it in minute detail, so I don't know what it means.
Understood. And I wasn't really posting the dream in hopes of others knowing what I'm trying to tell myself. Unfortunately, there wasn't a lot of minute detail to go into. The dream itself was fairly vague, but, since I've already put it out there, I'll elaborate as much as I can.
The "other" kept entering places that weren't his (like a nearby car that wasn't either of ours) and trashed everything inside of it. I'd try to offset the damage somehow by making it somewhat presentable again. The setting wasn't always the same, but it was mostly him following me and trashing something nearby that had nothing to do with him (or with me, I think), me cleaning it up, him leaving whatever I'd cleaned up alone, and him moving on to trash the next nearby location. And I would do my part while also talking him out of doing (some of) his part. Also, I wasn't following him (to clean up after him) as much as he was following me (as if to force a response out of me).
And, as I stated initially, I agree: there are numerous possible interpretations. Me promoting order to offset the universe's chaos, me taking responsibility for other people's actions, me exerting my influence on an outcome in the face of external circumstances, him trashing beliefs that were neither of ours (while I left something personally acceptable in its place), me cleaning up other people's messes, me promoting respect for others in the face of disrespect, me defining for myself what I think is (or isn't) "the right thing" to do, me being pressured to respond by something else turning the heat up, me being protective of someone who wasn't there to defend themselves. I'm not even reaching to come up with the list, as the dream could apply to any crossed boundary, trespass, interference, etc where some opposing presence played a role.
Applying it to DMSI's goal, it could be things like me seeing other people as nearby things that someone else has messed up, me somehow seeing prospective partners with a past as used goods or as something to repair (not sure that I do, as I seem to get more interest from the ones whose past has made them wiser or more attractive, not abused or broken), me seeing relationships as something that other people and circumstances are easily able to pollute in the present or future. I could go on. I'm not even sure that there's only one single answer. I could've been trying to tell myself 50 overlapping things at once, as my mind would love the geometry (poetry?) of that kind of multi-layered message.
I don't presume that consciously knowing the meaning, if there even is one or only one, is necessarily significant. If it really were, that part of me could've easily put more detail to the dream when I'd had it. If the dream recurs or precedes a sequel, maybe I'll discover more.
Since I didn't have much to go on either, what I was reporting was that the dream had a very atypical theme for the person having it. I know that saying that isn't much more detailed than saying that something happened without describing what it was, but that one element was unusual.
The "other" kept entering places that weren't his (like a nearby car that wasn't either of ours) and trashed everything inside of it. I'd try to offset the damage somehow by making it somewhat presentable again. The setting wasn't always the same, but it was mostly him following me and trashing something nearby that had nothing to do with him (or with me, I think), me cleaning it up, him leaving whatever I'd cleaned up alone, and him moving on to trash the next nearby location. And I would do my part while also talking him out of doing (some of) his part. Also, I wasn't following him (to clean up after him) as much as he was following me (as if to force a response out of me).
And, as I stated initially, I agree: there are numerous possible interpretations. Me promoting order to offset the universe's chaos, me taking responsibility for other people's actions, me exerting my influence on an outcome in the face of external circumstances, him trashing beliefs that were neither of ours (while I left something personally acceptable in its place), me cleaning up other people's messes, me promoting respect for others in the face of disrespect, me defining for myself what I think is (or isn't) "the right thing" to do, me being pressured to respond by something else turning the heat up, me being protective of someone who wasn't there to defend themselves. I'm not even reaching to come up with the list, as the dream could apply to any crossed boundary, trespass, interference, etc where some opposing presence played a role.
Applying it to DMSI's goal, it could be things like me seeing other people as nearby things that someone else has messed up, me somehow seeing prospective partners with a past as used goods or as something to repair (not sure that I do, as I seem to get more interest from the ones whose past has made them wiser or more attractive, not abused or broken), me seeing relationships as something that other people and circumstances are easily able to pollute in the present or future. I could go on. I'm not even sure that there's only one single answer. I could've been trying to tell myself 50 overlapping things at once, as my mind would love the geometry (poetry?) of that kind of multi-layered message.
I don't presume that consciously knowing the meaning, if there even is one or only one, is necessarily significant. If it really were, that part of me could've easily put more detail to the dream when I'd had it. If the dream recurs or precedes a sequel, maybe I'll discover more.
Since I didn't have much to go on either, what I was reporting was that the dream had a very atypical theme for the person having it. I know that saying that isn't much more detailed than saying that something happened without describing what it was, but that one element was unusual.
