(10-30-2018, 02:21 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:(10-30-2018, 02:08 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:(10-30-2018, 11:42 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: I get why people use tactics. Use whatever you like to succeed I guess. Although this is why I'm throwing tactics and techniques out the window now and doing natural game, cause I know many guys feel that self-worth issue, that it's their game attracting the girls, not their true self. I'm starting to notice now that I connect with girls better when I convey my true self, basically don't even try think of what to do, but just let my subconscious guide me. Conversations flow better and girls are more attracted.
In my experience, being myself has scared plenty of women off / lead to several women blocking me.
It hasn’t helped yet at attracting women.
In all fairness, I probably have never met the right kind of women for me. If I did meet someone that is ‘perfect for me’ then being myself would likely be extremely attractive to her.
But it did flush out the wrong kind of women. I doubt I would have been happy with some of the women that blocked me though.
As a 30 yo, with zero relationship experience and still a virgin (I have reached ‘1st base’ a few times though), being myself is the only viable option.
Being honest about my lack of experience might have scared off quite a few women, but one day a woman will really appreciate being the first of a 30+ yo.
Being a 30 yo virgin, who has never had a relationship, is a fetish to some women (according to some threads on the internet).
Some women say they wish they could meet a 30+ yo virgin and be his first, and that she would feel special being with someone that didn’t just throw away his virginity to some random escort / *****.
This also applies to Catman, and other older virgins also.
For the record, PUA hasn’t worked for me either.
But yeah... being yourself should work in theory, it makes logical sense.
From what I’ve read, there are many different kinds of women, and some would love you (when being yourself), some would hate you (when being yourself) and most would be unimpressed and not even notice that you exist (most women would see you as just another uninteresting / boring guy, just like the millions of others).
Almost every guy is boring to most women, but totally awesome to a rare few (from what I’ve read, and I’ve read thousands of threads about attraction and relationships).
I reckon almost every guy is a sexy fetish to at least one woman in the world.
I’m sure some women out there have a total Sarge fetish... salesman are quite sexy to some women...
I'm not sure if you understand what natural game is really about by the way. Look into Social Prime's philosophy. It's not your true self that is unattractive and scaring women away. In fact it is your damaged self that you're currently presenting to them, which is why you're struggling with women. We end up this way cause of years of childhood trauma and conditioning, so we act with fear and a thick mask to prevent us from truly connecting with women. This isn't your true natural self at all. You need to peel back those layers and eliminate the fear from holding you back (dont worry I have it too), so then you'll be who you're really meant to be - your true self. It's not about learning more techniques to become more attractive in my opinion. It's about unlearning and removing the negative conditioning, to uncover your true self.
Anyway I dont wanna derail Sarge's journal.
By seeing the effect that my behavior change is having on others as I go through AM6, I better appreciate the value of natural game.
but I still believe techniques have their place in seduction. Having some game plan, knowing where you are going to lead the girl that you are spending time with certainly contribute to achieve the result that you want.
When I read back what I just wrote, I realize that my position didn't really changes than what it was last summer when there this heated debate on natural vs PUA. All that did change is that appreciate more natural power. that being said, I also believe that there are more than 1 way to achieve change. There is top down approach or bottom-up one. There is no best one. It is only a question of personal taste. You can change your inner core (ie with subliminals) and let that influence your behavior or do the opposite. That is apply techniques and let the experience and the new acquired habits influence your inner core. Or even better do both at the same time...
For having followed you for some time, I have noticed that you have very strong beliefs on some topics. Such as the natural game and semen retention. I am curious. Have you experienced a lot of success with women by following those 2 particular beliefs?
