Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[DarthXedonias]

To me, DMSI and SM3 achieve the same goal by taking different paths. I think that SM3 may have a strong appeal to some of us despite the old technologies because of the story/script that it is telling.

Yeah, what I like about SM is the fact that it empowers the man to do the job instead of waiting for the woman doing it. And I think there are other people who like that, too, even if it might not be necessary if DMSI succeeds.

SM doesn't empower you to do the job any more or less than DMSI does. It also doesn't make you wait for the woman to do it any more or less than DMSI does. It's furthering AM6, which is focusing you into a more active, masculine approach. But herein lies the rub:

Most of you associate "being a man" with "hunting woman". But who is more a man? A guy who goes to the gym, gets ripped and then goes out and hits on women, gives them the power by putting her in a position to reject or accept his advances, and then gets shot down 90%+ of the time, or the guy who doesn't go to the gym, isn't ripped, and has almost every attractive women doing tricks and making the moves to try to get him to **** them, while he goes about his life doing his thing and not worrying about women or sex?

The answer is that "which one is more a man" is a red herring. Neither is "more a man". But the guy who doesn't really try, but gets the attention, interest and sex anyway, is HIGHER VALUE, which is why he doesn't have to try.

The more you try, the lower your perceived value is to high value women. The less you try - while still interesting, attracting and getting the high value women, the higher your perceived value is to them.

Women want a man who is at least as valuable as they are, and preferably more so. You guys are all about going out and hunting them, and you go out and hunt them and try and try and try, and you peg yourself as not being at the very high levels of value by doing so. The harder he must try, the lower his value must be, she thinks. And that is instinctive for her. It may not even be something she is consciously aware of at all.

So a man who executes DMSI is always going to get swamped with interest because he is perceived as being so high value. He didn't have to do anything, and yet here these hot women are all noticing him, and noticing each other notice him, and competing for him. The only thing stopping you guys is...

1. You're stuck on the belief that "REAL men go hunt their pussy down", which makes you afraid to execute DMSI because you're worried that you can't approach while using DMSI (wrong), and not approaching makes you somehow less of a "real man", and
2. See #1.

I was just thinking that with SM the programming would rather become permanent than with DMSI and when using other subs I would be able to get some women even if I don't have the aura supporting me. That is my primary concern about it. And, I think you said it too once, it can be fun to go hunting even if you don't need to. But, anyway, if DMSI works SM becomes low priority either way. Still, when other important programs are upgraded doing a poll in regard to SM could be useful to see if people are interested in that sub at all and then decide.

Actually I believe that has already been addressed. The aura would obviously not be permanent (too energy intensive for the subconscious to want to continually do it without being prompted to) but the other things (like body language, mannerisms, etc) should be permanent. Shannon had mentioned to me in my journal that certain things in 3.2 should remain permanent even after you discontinue use (for example, I decided to go to a trip to the Philippines, etc after I had already stopped running 3.2 for quite a while). Also, the Aura in SM and WM don't last either. If I remember correctly from older journals the auras only last for at most a few months after your stop using those programs but the other things should remain. So in either case the Auras are going to diminish in either program but the non-aura stuff will be permanent.

As for the "hunting" issue I think he already said it just a few post earlier DMSI even though its main thing is to have women approach you it "does not" stop you from hunting if you want to. For example:

"1. You're stuck on the belief that "REAL men go hunt their pussy down", which makes you afraid to execute DMSI because you're worried that you can't approach while using DMSI (wrong), and not approaching makes you somehow less of a "real man", and"

Point is the Aura for either program isn't going to be permanent and the non-aura parts are going to be permanent if you used the program long enough to make them permanent. DMSI doesn't "prevent" you from approaching for fun. Only difference seems to be the power of the programs and the fact that DMSI tries to use every approach possible to make your more attractive while SM only takes one particular approach.