Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Darkness]

@Have at ye

Another is the he is that nice. And unfortunately subconsciously women perceive it as weakness. Hence when you care too much, show too much emotion. She assumes you’re a bitch. If you ignore her to the extent of extinction. She respects you because she’s like “oh, he HAS backbone, cute”

On her end it could be self esteem issues or worse, he needs to what he isn’t: more abusive.

Unfortunately very few women actually like honesty/sincerity. Or else we wouldn’t need these subs change or suppress certain traits in us.

We’ve all been ourselves prior to subs, who could we pretend to be. Flaws and all. That’s probably why he asked why she’s heading for anywhere but with him.

My experience has been that when I ignore women, they ignore me back.

When I’m nice to women, they generally act friendlier towards me, and start conversations with me.

Also, I have reached ‘first base’ (them kissing me) with 4 different women, all of whom I was nice and friendly towards before they kissed me. They all made the move on me. They all knew me for several months / years beforehand. But no sex though.

Three of them seem to have lost interest (are with someone else - I personally know their new boyfriends). And one says she wants to sleep with me, but can’t due to crappy circumstances. I’m keeping in contact with all of them as ‘just friends’ because circumstances change over time and you never know, and maybe I will meet someone new through them.


I think different people have different experiences, and what works for one person, doesn’t work for someone else.


Edit: My friend (who has slept with quite a few women) suggested that hanging with women as ‘just friends’ is good, since it is ‘social proof’.


Also, changed a few words to make it clearer and easier to read. Added a paragraph.

I used to be nice now I’m more distant. You I have to say have been lucky not to have to deal with shitty behavior from them while you were being social and well mannered. I ignore girls if I’m friendly and chill to them and they start to blank like I’ve said nothing or insult me without cause.

I’ve had this instant happen a couple times, out of the blue. Yet guys they like who play games and are fake af, even he puts through hell she’ll not only stay but smile as well. And even clutch to that type of slimy dude harder and even respect him.
The dude isn’t even remotely like that will get kicked to the curb, he’s gonna have suck it up.

So yeah as much as I don’t like it. I’m really skeptical and a little abusive to them. Having a Even little more respect and consideration than she has for herself is not good.

You’re friend is right. Though I’ll that if she’s a friend that you both have chemistry because it’s funnest that way. And not the motivation for social proof for social proof sake, it’s actually genuine that way and not fake. Plus female friends with real genuine chemistry is rare and really more enjoyable for me than dude friends, for me.