Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Zane]

@Shannon , hey buddy you wrote this on a journal about UM/OP:

The sub does not MAKE you do anything. It is a set of instructions. It is designed to be persuasive, yes, but ultimately the user is responsible for the act of executing the script.

So those of us resisting or not executing are 'subconsciously' (NOT CONSCIOUSLY) choosing not to execute - and in the case of 3 UM/OP users (3 that have admitted this) are resisting by actually procrastinating or using avoidance (FAPPING FOR KING AND COUNTRY lol) tactics - and this is what you are trying to overcome basically? by...

...Somehow trying to reason and talk to our subC to not resist, not fear and simply execute if it wants to?

So our subC could always choose not to execute?

Why is hypnosis more effective for some then than these subliminals seem to be?

I myself have had zero success with hypnosis except for 1 hypnotherapist in the past that told my subC that I would have dreams that night and voila I did. Thats all that happened for me yet hypnosis seems to be far more effective at overcoming the resistance many of us seem to be facing with subliminals according to historic claims of hypnosis and hypnotherapy.

thanks mate!

I also remember in past I used hypnosis and my memory and concentration sky rocketed but after that things went down and I lost it most.. Today I am in a position that I have problem searching vocabulary or term when writing or speaking.. I was fluent 8 years ago..

I think that's cause Hypnosis relaxed ur Conscious mind along with subc so that why u notice result..

I do believe we consciously try our best to not execute but we are not aware because we have made it like a habit..

For me it's when my conscious mind is absolutely fed up then of fighting the subliminal script only then I change.

For example.. I had a habit of eating from KFC and fast food restaurants... It wasn't good for my health.. I mean I eat so much outside food that I will feel stick to my stomach... But still I noticed that I consciously wanna eat still.. I mean I can feel that it's coming from my conscious mind yet a voice my subc saying it's not a good idea..

So I order the chicken again but this time it was rotten chicken.. Apparently they give me 2 - 3 days old and it smelled horrible and I ate it by mistake and believe the smell off it and thinking that I ate it.. I vomited so much.. That my conscious mind was like.. Man i am never gonna eat this shit again..

So I think it's our conscious mind creating problems along with subc.. I think its gonna take time..

Have u noticed that ur Conscious mind is now a little more cooperative?

With hypnosis the gate keeper known as the conscious mind is made to sleep allowing suggestions to reach the subC more easily. With subliminals the idea I thought was for suggestions to reach your subC irrespective of whether the gate keeper is awake or asleep.

No my conscious mind and I have no changed 1 bit at all. I do not feel any different in anyway which is why im really really hoping that UM/OP is the sub that overcomes my non-execution

Idk why you keep saying that u didn't execute.. U executed few part pretty good I think including NoFap part of DMSI pretty well.. Maybe u should try reading ur old journal and u will realise that u do have changed.. Only thing u are always worried about is procrastination.. Like me.. Pretty sure time will come and we will fix this issue