Quote:Are we really here for "realistic?" The whole point of Shannon choosing a goal like DMSI has is to push the boundaries of what's achievable with subliminals. To some, listening to an ultrasonic track - with no consciously discernible words - that gives them sudden relief from a debilitating tendency to put everything off to mañana would be "unrealistic."This has nothing to do with my point.
Quote:Really, what you're doing, Plouf, is giving reason(s) you haven't executed DMSI, and are projecting it on everyone here, like "It's an 'unrealistic' goal." It's a challenging goal, to be sure, but as Shannon has shown us again and again with myriad subs and success stories for a plethora of people from different backgrounds, an open mind about what's possible would serve everyone here much better. Certainly much better than "reasons" why something cannot be done.Please read my post once more. Especially these parts:
Quote:What CatMan is saying, that I have also said a few times before is that, for some people (the hard cases, so), the goal of DMSI is too much of a leap.
Quote:The point of CM is that for some people, going from A (I suck so bad with women) to Z (I have an abundant sexual life) is so far out of touch
I'm talking about a precise category of people. Everything is relative, DMSI's goal is clearly not unrealistic for many, but for some it is indeed. All I'm saying in that story is, for those people CM depicted, it's more a matter of gaining incremental experiences than removing fear because as I said, I don't see how they are related. I've also genuinely asked how removing fear would make the leap less wide, still waiting for a genuine answer.
Quote:EDIT: Furthermore, regarding "incremental experiences," - if that were necessary to achieve the goal - the subc would create those experiences via H&C and Optimus Engine to achieve the goal.As it clearly didn't happen so far, maybe that's something that need to be tweaked or actively worded.
I'm already seeing in the list of the changes for 3.3 that Shannon plans to make DMSI's goal more believable for all layers of awareness.
This is what I'm talking about.
