Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[SargeMaximus]

@sarge You mean there's no other explanation that you can see or bring yourself to believe. Black and white thinking. "There are always reasons and options that are not obvious. Therefore, never make snap judgements."

If I get results immediately after using pua, it’s pretty obvious.

I don't know whether you will be open to know the truth or not, because you seem to reject most everything that points to the truth (surely unintentionally), but I'll try to point at it in some other way. Maybe you can start accepting these facts that you can't seem to see so far, but others who are aware of them, can see these from the way you talk.

PUA has worked for you because of bypassing the need for you to change your negative beliefs about yourself. You might have, but you won't find natural attraction, until those layers of negative beliefs about yourself (as a man) are (at least partly) cleared. When natural attraction does happen to you, you don't see it and therefore you can't use it to challenge your existing mindset.

This is a diagram to explain this:

You
---------- Negative faith about yourself
Women

In this situation above, you are doing nothing, and nothing seems to happen. You see no attraction whatsoever. What you can't see is the barrier that is blocking the possibility of any attraction.

Natural seduction happens like this:

You
| -------- Natural connection, and rest of mindset that isn't preventing you from it now
Women

With PUA you are doing this:

You --- \ Unnatural connection (but partly natural as well) forced, via unnatural tricks
-------- # to bypass your negative mindset about yourself, which is reinforced by
Women / this kind of actions


The thing that you cannot see is the --------- barrier, the one that prevents you from having and seeing natural attraction with women, where you literally have to do nothing to find that attraction. You need to question and challenge the mindset you keep about yourself that you normally cannot see it. It's faith that you have about you not being attractive to women all on your own, without having to do any actions; and who knows which other kind of negative layers, such as shame, guilt, sex not being okay, sexuality doesn't just "happen"...

If you think logically, you will be able to easily admit that you believe things like "I am not attractive to women just by myself". Correct? Well, those are the kind of beliefs that conform that barrier. "Women don't want me" is a big one for you, it seems, because you mentioned that it hurts... removing this particular belief, and clearing the emotions of that pain, will do wonders for you (my guess, knowing how these things work).

That ------ barrier is in your ego, and as such it doesn't want to be seen, because it's the way you believe yourself to be, and it doesn't want to change because your ego believes that mindset itself is you. Until you start clearing that barrier, you most probably will never notice any natural attraction between you and women. Even if it happens, you won't admit it. Remember, your ego holds that barrier and doesn't want it to change. It must be you deciding to clear it what can set you free.

I wish that helps clarify this to you. When you look at these diagrams, you will know exactly what you should change in order to have what you really want (natural attraction): dig holes on that f***king mental wall.

This is exactly what I have been saying all along. Its like using a pair of crutches to walk rather then allowing the legs to heal so you can naturally walk.

This is all highly speculative and, again, there is no proof.