Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[thor2014]

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?

Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.

The only reason that Johnny Soporno gets or was getting porn stars is because he worked in the adult film industry. This has nothing to do with PUA. Its like saying Justin Bieber uses PUA tactics to get women into bed.

Imagine a car going up a hill with the hand brake on. That was you before DMSI now DMSI has helped take the handbrake off and now its less of a struggle to implement these so called tactics and start getting laid.

I still standby what I said PUA material has always been a sugar coated gimmick. If it really worked why are customers purchasing DMSI ? WM and SM. Its simple because this PUA stuff does not work for them.

Ok Soporno have access to porn stars but he can still seduce them and he is still old and fat... I failed to see how easy access to sex actresses prove that PUA technics/mindset are worthless...

Also, I am very curious about your journey Thor... You were reporting your DMSI progress on this thread. And not so long ago, I have witnessed the struggle and the various dreams that you have made as you were cranking up the loops...

And suddenly, overnight, you started chain f-closes one after the other...

and I don't recall having read your thoughts about this sudden transformation... What can you share about it?

I have to admit it wasn't an overnight change. It took around 5 to 6 weeks of intense listening to DMSI on 7 loops a day. Its not like women are throwing themselves at me everytime I go out but I will get girls who will make it obvious they fancy me. Or if I approach a girl I make it known without words I want to bed her.

Initial changes were internal as in dreams like you said. Then these appear to manifest into buying new clothes, using facial creams, surrounding myself with supportive group of close friends, regular gym sessions.

My fears and frustrations seem to dissolve overtime and as this happened I began noticing womens attitudes changing towards me.

More recently I have began reading about how best to improve my sex life and how to appreciate a womans body.