Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[SargeMaximus]

I shall try harder in the future to resist my urge to help, Sarge. It never works.

I'm amazed you lasted this long. I gave up ages ago because every time it ends up just how it did.

This isn’t about “help”.

I’ve gotten some real results from using pua and just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make the results any less real.

I find it interesting that if we don’t get results you say we need to take responsibility, but if we actually do take responsibility and use something like pua to get results, suddenly it’s “oh it could be anything”. Where I know for a fact if I hadn’t had mentioned pua, it would all be DMSI praise.

I had been trying to hold my tongue, but after this, I'm too tired of your shit to hold my tongue anymore. You make me think you are a moron sometimes.

It was about help. I was trying to point out to you a logical fallacy you were committing YET AGAIN, which is the belief that correlation equals causation. I wasn't disagreeing that you might have gotten those results from PUA. I was simply pointing out that X following Y does not mean that X was caused by Y, because you love to simplify things to black or white, when the world is not black and white. And when you do this, which is constantly, you inevitably come to some seriously ***** up and wrong conclusions.

That may be true. But consider my perspective: If I can't/don't know what is contributing to my success, how can I get better?


I agree that being wrong about what is contributing to my success is just as bad, but then what is there left to do?

Here's a little tidbit for you to ponder. DMSI includes the Optimus Engine, which is a polymorphic script designed to get your subconscious to use what it knows and understands to achieve the goal. So it is, in fact, entirely possible (and probable, actually, now that I think about it) that all of your "success with PUA" came from the OE in DMSI being executed. You understand PUA, so that's the vector that would have been used. Just like DathXedonias traveled to another country to find a culture that would allow him to execute DMSI.

Now whether or not that was the case with you, I can't know for sure, but I certainly could still claim credit for your "successes" based on that if I wanted to. If it was all about DMSI praise, you would have seen me do that already. But I haven't. So much for your little theory.

Yes, I've thought about that. If that is what DMSI is doing then that's great. It's one of the reasons I still run it. I know it's doing something, but I don't know what.

You have such poor logic skills and comprehension of what logic actually is that it is a wonder that even DMSI has been able to do anything at all with you.

I can't help that.

I suggest you stop here and now. Instead of being arrogant and snarky, you might want to be appreciative instead. Regardless of what got you results, I have made how many versions of this damned program in a row with only getting paid once per person for it? And because I made you guys a promise. Who else would have done that? Nobody. Anyone else would have just scrapped the project and moved on, regardless of what you guys thought or wanted, promise or not. So whether or not you got results, you should still be appreciating, because this is more than a year of my blood sweat and tears into this program trying to help guys like you.

I do appreciate what you've done. I've praised you and DMSI more times as the programs have gotten better and I do know it must be exhausting, frustrating, and annoying to keep doing this thing. I know I, personally, feel the same way when I'm doing pick up and I think I *finally* have the answer to a problem, test it in field, and then the women throw another curve ball at me. It feels like they don't WANT me and that hurts. I imagine it must be the same for you. Like you feel we don't want to actually succeed. But that's not true. I do want to succeed and I'm grateful for the experiences DMSI has given me thusfar (like that 8.5. Seriously, showed me what is possible as she was 100% manifested and she seduced me but I guess I f*cked it up somehow).


So yeah, don't get me wrong.


My outburst was definitely fueled by losing my FWB and not having any women in the pipeline. I didn't mean to be ungrateful, but some truths had to be said, especially with all the PUA bashing going around.

If someone were to bash DMSI to my face, I'd probably res[pond the same way because it has helped. In fact, I've been in contact with a member on another forum who used to be here but was banned.

I don't know why he was banned. But he was talking about DMSI and how it wasn't good.

I told him about my experiences and he's back using it again BECAUSE OF ME!

I don't hate DMSI, or you Shannon, but I have a strong conviction to the truth and can't abide when people distort what I see as correct for what I see as their own agenda.

That means I'm not the most popular guy I get that, but to me it's about progress not popularity (though I would like to be popular too So, if I knew a way to be more tactful I'd do it).

Anyhow, sorry if there were hard feelings but I have to speak my truth. That will never change. All I can do is try to learn how to be more tactful and speak the truth without hurting people.

I am done trying to help you, Sarge. You're not even capable of comprehending when I am trying to help you, never mind appreciate shit. And if you keep going with being snarky and arrogant, I'm going to decide I have finally had enough. If you want to say PUA did it, then stop using DMSI and go do your PUA thing. I don't care what did it for you at this point. I am just tired of your snarky attitude.

Seriously, I have no idea what the hell you're even using DMSI for anymore. Especially if you think PUA is what's doing it for you. Go play with your damned PUA and see what it gets you when DMSI has worn off.

It's like I said, I know DMSI is doing something, that's why I keep using it.

Sorry for my snarkiness. I was upset.