Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

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Yeah I have switched over to decaf Tea, mostly. I have one normal Tea in the morning, but I am sure it won't be that hard to twitch over that one cup, aswell.

Shannon, when you can get around to it any chance of a Deep Gratitude and Appreciation focusfire sub?

When I can get a round tuit, sure.

Shannon what was you experience with a gratitude lifestyle if you had any ?
Do you have any conviction in the usefulness of consciously being grateful as much as possible?

A gratitude lifestyle didn't bring much to my life when I adopted it. Usually with LOA techniques I can see reality shifting but with gratitude I couldn't tell if life was improving at all. I went on for like, 2+ months with that.
I feel like gratitude is a consequence of a blissful state rather than one of possible trigger of that said state.
So I'm curious if you had any evidence (at least from experience) of the benefits of an attitude of gratitude.

Gratitude only works when it's genuine. Genuine gratitude is its own reward, and you won't be looking for other things in response to it. Trying to generate gratitude and then look for something else to happen as a result is not really being grateful.

Gratitude is a result of being grateful, genuinely grateful of and appreciating, what is in some direction. It is not a consequence of a blissful state, it is a blissful state. Gratitude is the end result of genuine appreciation. You can't fake it and then expect things to happen. You can't do it on the surface and expect things to change. You have to be genuinely appreciative and genuinely grateful. "Doing it for two months" doesn't happen when you're doing it right, it becomes a default state.

It - appreciation and gratitude - is a choice, yes, but the difference between what you were probably doing and doing it the right way is that the right way is not trying to get something else as a result. Genuine appreciation is not a tool to get gratitude, but it usually naturally results in genuine gratitude. Likewise, genuine gratitude is not a tool to get something else, but it frequently results in many other things, such as an increase in genuine contentment, success, happiness, etc.

Stop trying to get something as a result of being grateful. The end goal should be gratitude. The rest will happen naturally and automatically as a consequence of being genuinely grateful.

And yes, I have a lot of experience with a lifestyle that includes genuine gratitude. It changed my whole life around. It's also very useful for combating negative thinking, anger, frustration and depression.

Yes as I thought so... In fact I wrote carefully "consciously being grateful", because I know there's the genuine state which is totally effortless.
The way gratitude is taught by the new age movement is "fake it until you make it", which is what I tried.
What you said makes perfect sense and I agree.
Well in some instances faking work. But when it comes to gratitude, not so much it appears. Thanks for the input.
I still dwell in gratitude whenever I can as it generates positive emotions. That's better than nothing.

So to follow up with the suggestion yes that would be a good thing a gratitude sub. I am not a fan of having it as just a focus fire sub. It would however fits so well with PTPA, SE and such.
I think later when you have room you could make a "bundle" of these subs. Like for US + LM.