05-03-2018, 06:41 AM
(05-02-2018, 01:04 PM)DarkPlouf Wrote:Quote:The subconscious is actually vastly more "conscious" than the "conscious" mind is. It understands everything the conscious mind understands, but in different ways, and it perceives time as a smear, not a "point of now", so it can know what the conscious mind is likely to do in what the conscious mind experiences as "the future". Trying to claim that it simply doesn't understand what the conscious mind wants is laughable in the extreme, since the conscious mind is using a set of explicit instructions that are specifically and painstakingly worded to be fully comprehended by the subconscious.
I will fiercely disagree about this one. When I was still playing self hypnosis tapes I clearly noticed how molding with the way of communication was impacting the effects. Like switching "I" for "You" or using feelings and emotions versus none. So it's clear that the way one chooses to approach his subconscious mind does matter. If my subconscious knew since the start what I was asking it to do my tests would have worked since the very first try, without the necessity of all that gymnastic. I didn't spend a decent amount of time studying that but still, that handful of experiments speak by themselves.
You are assuming a lot of knowledge and understanding of the subconscious that you clearly don't have. For one, the subconscious is very lazy, and will do the least it possibly can. For two, the parts of the subconscious that mist frequently react are very literal. Between these two things, without specific instruction, nothing will happen. It simply runs whatever instructions it has accepted as "operating system" and does nothing else. If you want to get a specific result, you have to make it understand that fact and then get it to execute.
A handful of experiments don't really tell you much, which is why I have been doing them almost continuously since 1992. And you are using rather simplistic thinking to come to your conclusions; you are tending to think in black and white, "If not X, then Y." That's not how this works. There are always reasons and options that are not obvious.
Quote:Oh well I think we should stop here because I can't possibly win against you and your years of experiences and experiments. I'm of a good faith and looking for the best for me but I do not resonate at all on a personal level with some of your views. My gut feelings say no, my brain says no, so what shall I do ? It's meaningless to continue. But I'm glad I spoke my mind at least.
You are welcome to disagree with me, as many do. But it is important that I present counterpoints for those reading. I believe you are misunderstanding some things, and that misunderstanding will only be magnified if I don't try to show you what I have come to know.
Quote:But all I can say is that since I changed my view on my subconscious mind I've received clear feedback from it, the very first day I asserted my authority and control over my thoughts and beliefs. This tell me it's the way to go.
Being literal, it does what you tell it to, once it understands what you want. Unless it resists.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!