Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Have at ye]

You have a different definition of psychic seduction than I am going on. But you are still incorrect when you say it can't bend someone's will. It is just a matter of degrees of skill and energy used. Be sure you never take away someone's freedom of choice. The backlash and fallout from that is bad.

Are you talking about Karma ? You a believer ?
I've always believed that karma stuff is just a lie from gurus so that they can keep their power for themselves and scare people from doing what they want.

In my experience there's no such thing as "total conscious control" when attempting stuff of this ilk.

Still, their conscious decision seem to be the ultimate barrier. After all many have drunk dialed and did/say whatever they have been influenced to do. Then when sober they take back everything . Isn't that a proof in their sober waking state they consciously decide to reject and bury these ideas ?
Oh well personally I'd have to witness it to believe it's possible to change someone else will remotely.

Well, I'm *SO* not going to give any guidelines or advice on how this can be done.

Anyroad, I believe that trying to install an unconscious compulsion to perform a particular action in someone is an attempt at so-called "mind control", and I'd generally label it under the "really, REALLY bad ideas" heading. Also, it's a d**k move.

I also don't think "karma" is a lie per se, it's just that the concept is widely misrepresented (sometimes, perhaps, on purpose, though, as the saying goes, "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" ) and/or misunderstood, as the actual workings of it do seem to be rather... complex. I really cannot claim to understand the exact workings of it, for instance, but it would seem that yes, a mechanism often called "the law of karma" is in effect.