Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[DarkPlouf]

No. In fact I would recommend never doing that, ever.

Can you please elaborate on why we should not do that? And what way it may conflict with obtaining the goals of DMSI?

Manipulating someone into having sex with you isn't a good idea. So far we have managed to avoid that with DMSI. I am really, REALLY not interested in making DMSI work by manipulating the affected. We are attempting to influence by persuasion, not manipulation. We want them to make the desired choice, but not take away their freedom to have a choice to make.

It also conflicts with what DMSI is trying to do by attempting to redirect energy and attention from what DMSI may be doing in a different direction, or trying to make what happens happen in a way that is not safe.

Lol it's not like psychic influence can bend someone's will. It only works when the target has the potential to make the decision and just need a little push. All what psychic seduction does to unwilling targets is making them go release with the person they actually want to have sex with.

I would say you're not very well educated on the subject.

Maybe, can't pretend to know everything about it, but I've a solid experience with psychic influence. From myself but also from a group of fellow interested in this subject. Pshysic influence can't force someone to do what that person doesn't want. May be for sex or for whatever else. If that person is against or is afraid of the idea, no action will be taken, no matter how much or how frequently the thoughts and idea are transmitted and well received. The target just bear with these incessant ideas that pop in his/her mind but take no action. In the end, the target has still to carry out an action from his own volition.

In the case of psychic seduction that's actually a pretty bad idea as that practice keeps making horny the target, in most case, and they go release with the person they are allowed to, or with the first outlet they can get. If that person likes you and already registered you as "the guy I can safely have sex with" then it'll work and you'll be the first choice. But as such, if that person like you from the start or has the potential to, there's no need for psychic seduction. Meaning psychic seduction doesn't burn steps and you still need to do the work . They "suffer" in silence but absolutely do nothing about it if they do not want to.
And even when there are instances of psychic seduction working against someone's will, it only acts as a temporary drug. Once the target wakes up, that person will utterly deny what he/she did under such circumstances. We are witnessing targets going hot and cold and hot and cold incessantly. Taking back things they said or did outrageously during such influenced state. Because that doesn't match their decisions.

Psychic influence is good for mundane things. Making a friend invite you for a pizza, making them say something, influence your birthday gifts, and do some other funny stuff. Because most people are "neutral", or even favorable to these mundane ideas. But if they truly don't wan't, not only psychic influence will make them hate you but will likely fail, unless anything good and logical came up to change their view. But in such case again, no need for psychic influence.

So no, that can't bend someone else will. And I'm not just saying that from my thorough experience, materials, observations and experiments from other practitioners, but because it actually makes sense when we think about it. No matter what that happens in the mind realm of the target, if the conscious mind isn't aligned with it, no physical manifestation (action) will be made of it.
Don't wish anyone to get trapped into that stuff thinking they can control others like I was. Even tho I still practice it but it's only with willing partners.