My Musings (DMSI 3.2)

[Determined]

I totally agree. I am just about to make a post about it in fact...

I think the same too. Talking to them and having fun isn't an issue for me. Whenever I do make an advancement, they shy away. Like this girl E, who was a manifestation from 3.1. On 3.1, our dynamics was so so. But it grew a lot on 3.2 and we were having fun talking to each other, hanging out, and such. But when I made the premature move, she went cold.

Sounds like friendzone to me. No offense.

There is no such thing as a premature move.

I literally nearly had a single night lay from a first date with a woman I never met before this past Tuesday.

Only thing was she wouldn't be persuaded to let me inside her apartment. But there was heavy sexual grabbing and kissing and talking dirty from both of us.

So, I think in your case, you may be taking things too slow and not being sexual enough.

In my case, I need to learn how to overcome ASD/LMR better.

To me it seems the affected are resisting the sub. They are some what affected but no strong enough to make them do much about it

It's the prevalent societal paradigm that woman have (that men must pursue) which is propagated by modern culture through TV shows such as "Sex and the City" and even women themselves in their cliques.

The only exception is the celebrity effect (which I've experienced and enjoyed) but for Shannon to take an average joe to that height is a very ambitious undertaking.

The sad thing is (and as Richard Bandler says) "this is the world we have" so regardless of the patterns and paradigms that exist, we must flow with it.

What are you saying here? Are you saying DMSI can't overcome this shit and we should just go with the way things are by becoming seducers?

No, I'm saying we should accept the world as it is and hope to influence it rather than force outcomes.

The truth is, most people are reluctant to execute DMSI because they don't want to be in the spotlight or they don't want to be annoyed by hordes of women which is counter to the celebrity effect.

I see, and I agree with you.

Influence is fascinating, and I love it. I don't nearly have the level I want, however.

I've wondered if the value we have isn't high enough yet, and if the pain/consequence for NOT sleeping with us is high enough as well.

I believe people need a carrot AND a stick to be moved, but the stick is always more important. Tony Robbins says that people will take action to avoid pain more readily than to gain pleasure.

Carrot and Stick, it doesn't matter. If the user is ready, they'll execute.