02-04-2012, 11:25 AM
(02-03-2012, 07:45 PM)Shannon Wrote: I have heard various ideas about levels or layers to the subconscious mind. I think, personally, that they're way off. Nature tends to follow the KISS principle. So far, I have not found evidence at all yet that the subconscious mind has distinct layers or levels.
In fact it appears to be a smooth gradient from the deep subconscious to until you achieve consciousness, and then you have a small zone of significant change, followed by a distinct area of consciousness. I liken it to a lake: it might be quite deep, and sunlight might not reach the bottom. But as you come closer to the surface, sunlight filters through and then suddenly you have a small zone of drastic change where not only do you shift from water to air (both fluids, but drastically different) and within in a small area, the water and air mix. Oxygen and other gasses get into the water, and water vapor gets into the air.
My recent experiments show that the conscious and subconscious more than likely interact in a similar way, and also suggest that the conscious mind has it's own "database" of beliefs/programming that is apparently fed by the subconscious, apparently to help keep the ship to an even keel, so to speak. This conscious database is probably based in conscious memory of past actions, and the subconscious "database" will be much more vast, stable and complex. But if the subconscious communicates with the conscious about changes it is experiencing, the conscious mind may attempt to defeat them or stop them based on conscious knowledge or memories. It may also resist if and when it notices the "ship" being turned from the old course, as well, depending on the new course of direction.
This is my current model, and explains why certain responses I have seen repeatedly happen. I believe that the subconscious can be likened to a second "person" within you, with whom your conscious mind must work to get things accomplished. There are hints are separate personality traits as well, although so far only hints. The conscious mind appears to be unaware of the subconscious mind because it is "facing the wrong way" to "see" it (focusing very heavily on incoming sensory input from the senses which sense the external world), and is also far too self aware and limited in its awareness. I suggest that the subconscious mind "dreams" all the time, but only when it has complete control of the body do you experience what we know as "dreams". When it has partial control, you get daydreams or visualizations. This suggests that perhaps "dreams" are actually a form of sight, possibly seeing the visual thoughts of the subconscious and/or other aspects of reality, which must be interpreted by the rational conscious mind, and in the translation, become confusing because the rational cannot comprehend the irrational.
But layers of the subconscious, I hesitate to accept more than possibly a smooth gradiation from "deep" to "shallow", with shallow being a poor word and only suggesting easier proximity or interaction with the conscious mind.
It's naturally possible that I'm wrong, but so far this is the model that best fits for explaining what I have observed.
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