10-01-2017, 08:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2017, 08:31 AM by SargeMaximus.)
I like your analogy. It definitely describes what is going on with women ime because I've had girls come onto me and then it's like "ok... who's seducing?" and it becomes a stalemate.
HOWEVER, I don't agree with your "seducer OR seduced" theory. Mostly because I do sales and, in my experience, it works more like this:
I want to sell my product. I know my product is the best.
The customer doesn't, so I have to go educate them.
The rules are, I can only tell them about aspects of the product THEY desire. Only aspects that THEY think are worth buying (my thoughts become irrelevant)
I keep talking about the things THEY value that my product has until they WANT it (they didn't before because they didn't know)
Then, by magic, the idea to buy becomes the customers, not mine and I can't fill the order fast enough.
The customer comes away from it feeling like it was all their idea.
That's roughly how it works in sales. Same can be done in seduction, I'd imagine.
The idea is yours, but the girl comes to own that idea as if it was her own.
My 2 cents.
I've sold things to people who have told me up front "I'm not buying that. Mine works fine".
But if you hit the right "buttons", they change their mind. And I come away with a sale (true story. Took 30 minutes to change the guys mind, but it was his idea )
So, I don't believe in the "they like you already or there's no chance"
It just doesn't work that way, and it's very limiting to believe that you cannot influence people.
HOWEVER, I don't agree with your "seducer OR seduced" theory. Mostly because I do sales and, in my experience, it works more like this:
I want to sell my product. I know my product is the best.
The customer doesn't, so I have to go educate them.
The rules are, I can only tell them about aspects of the product THEY desire. Only aspects that THEY think are worth buying (my thoughts become irrelevant)
I keep talking about the things THEY value that my product has until they WANT it (they didn't before because they didn't know)
Then, by magic, the idea to buy becomes the customers, not mine and I can't fill the order fast enough.
The customer comes away from it feeling like it was all their idea.
That's roughly how it works in sales. Same can be done in seduction, I'd imagine.
The idea is yours, but the girl comes to own that idea as if it was her own.
My 2 cents.
I've sold things to people who have told me up front "I'm not buying that. Mine works fine".
But if you hit the right "buttons", they change their mind. And I come away with a sale (true story. Took 30 minutes to change the guys mind, but it was his idea
)So, I don't believe in the "they like you already or there's no chance"
It just doesn't work that way, and it's very limiting to believe that you cannot influence people.
