Thanks Jake, that's why I mentioned it. It's possible it's similar to the losing hair situation many guys reports with an earlier version. Could be another attempt at resisting, so worth mentioning.
Hi D.ace. I don't know what you mean? I don't remember being "annoyed" by any comment for awhile now. So no, I'm not annoyed by your older comment, I think I vaguely remember what was in it. I think I answered it, either on the journal or in PM, and openly admitted often with people that I have issues with women obviously, that's why I'm here. It's no secret or recent big realisation. My comment on Hulse's wife was a broader view that guys teaching about women, like him and Eben Pagen, I found their wives to be unattractive, so I found it hard to take advice from them as big time experts is all. In Pagen's case, I found him to be a slimy internet marketer that plays on guy's insecurities to make money off them, while he doesn't exactly have a stunner on his arm but pretends to be an expert with women. He's become a multi-millionaire pulling that scam, which I find deplorable, him and others. Keep in mind I've had one on one coaching with a lot of these "gurus", so I know a lot more than most how phony they are, so it's hard for me to respect most of them. That doesn't mean I don't want sex at all, if that was truly the case 100%, I wouldn't be running this program. I think I remember saying I'm not running it to "bang 100 hot club chicks" or something similar, which is true, I'm not. I said I primarily want power and choice with women, as I've never had that with women before, which could then obviously lead to sex if I so chose to, and that sex felt further away than that to me now. Understand, that SEX...and "bang 100 hot club chicks" are two very different things. I'm not using this to get massive numbers of notches to show how "alpha" or "cool" I am to others or to myself. I want power and choice with women, which could then lead to sex if I so choose, big difference to me. Just to be clear on that.
"It's value, as you stated you'd want someone who thrives as you do and you refuse to go for exchanging money for a crotch sneeze or two". I don't understand what you mean by that. And I said I wanted an attractive woman as we all do, so I don't know what you mean by thriving, I don't want a wealthy woman if that's what you mean, for several reasons. Her money means nothing to me, I just want her to be attractive, loyal, and a good positive aspect to my life, mainly. So I don't understand. Do you mean hookers at the end of that? I don't want to go through this for the millionth time. I have ZERO interest in hiring a hooker. It proves nothing of my ability to get women on my own, and will further bolster my views on gold diggers and not being "good enough" to get women on my own. And having to wave money at them to buy access, which I view as pathetic and just another form of pedestalisation. I REALLY don't want yet another derail on the merits of hookers on my journal, if others like it, rock on. Why bother using a sub to attract women if you want to get a hooker? Makes zero sense to me, just go get one if you dig that. I'm not stooping to bribing a girl to touch me, if I was that desperate, and willing to lower my self worth even more with women, I would've done it a long time ago. I'm doing it "the normal way", creating attraction, or not at all. Getting penetration isn't worth further damage to my self worth by buying it. Too high a price tag for me.
I have several targets around me I'm very attracted to, and have mentioned that often. So I don't understand your view that I don't. There's 3 at a minimum right now, a possible 4th that I find physically attractive a lot, but have only known her a few weeks. There's tons of others I don't see in person much or for awhile I find very attractive, I guess that's where these "snipers" and "manifestations" are supposed to come in at some point. We'll see about that.
It would be the biggest mindscrew in the world if girls believed I was too good to be true. They seem to have mistreated me and taken me for granted, LJBF me, or blown me off my whole life. To me, that seems to suggest I'm not valuable for some reason to them. I would find it hard to believe, that all the not texting back, not calling back, not hitting me up for a date or chasing me, mistreatment blah blah blah, dating, sex, everything, is because each of them thought I was too good to be true. It's a nice thought, but I'm not sure I'd buy it given all the behaviour, I figure at least a few of them would've taken a chance at a coffee or something to test it. To me, it suggests some sort of "thing" they're all feeling, I'm not valuable to them somehow despite everything I bring to the table. Still, it would be amusing that some of these waitresses/hostesses I find attractive, somehow feel this way about me, not sure what to do about that or how to see if it's true, though.
I have NEVER been able to figure out a pattern with girls my entire life...except for one thing. Anytime I was only half-into a girl or less, or she THOUGHT I was only half-into her when I was really into her, she seemed to show some real possible signs of attraction. When I actually genuinely liked her after that, it always went to shit, she'd start being ignorant, distant, pulling away, more and more and more, until she's a memory and always "busy" and not responding and being a rude bitch. They don't seem to like it when I like them. So, if only I can somehow like them without liking them...nice paradox there, they're so ridiculous. I'm not even sure they're worth it, tough to know from my perspective, I have real doubts though. But, that's been the only pattern I've observed with any kind of reliability over tons of girls in my life. There must be something to it. I don't understand how to get around it though, makes no sense to me.
Bottom line, I feel the program is far from delivering on the girl front in reality. If V3.3 or so is supposed to be "final", I'm nervous. It feels like WAY too much of a leap to expect real results with real girls in reality in such a short time, given how things are. At this point, despite the higher loop count, I'm still not convinced programs of this nature work.
Hi D.ace. I don't know what you mean? I don't remember being "annoyed" by any comment for awhile now. So no, I'm not annoyed by your older comment, I think I vaguely remember what was in it. I think I answered it, either on the journal or in PM, and openly admitted often with people that I have issues with women obviously, that's why I'm here. It's no secret or recent big realisation. My comment on Hulse's wife was a broader view that guys teaching about women, like him and Eben Pagen, I found their wives to be unattractive, so I found it hard to take advice from them as big time experts is all. In Pagen's case, I found him to be a slimy internet marketer that plays on guy's insecurities to make money off them, while he doesn't exactly have a stunner on his arm but pretends to be an expert with women. He's become a multi-millionaire pulling that scam, which I find deplorable, him and others. Keep in mind I've had one on one coaching with a lot of these "gurus", so I know a lot more than most how phony they are, so it's hard for me to respect most of them. That doesn't mean I don't want sex at all, if that was truly the case 100%, I wouldn't be running this program. I think I remember saying I'm not running it to "bang 100 hot club chicks" or something similar, which is true, I'm not. I said I primarily want power and choice with women, as I've never had that with women before, which could then obviously lead to sex if I so chose to, and that sex felt further away than that to me now. Understand, that SEX...and "bang 100 hot club chicks" are two very different things. I'm not using this to get massive numbers of notches to show how "alpha" or "cool" I am to others or to myself. I want power and choice with women, which could then lead to sex if I so choose, big difference to me. Just to be clear on that.
"It's value, as you stated you'd want someone who thrives as you do and you refuse to go for exchanging money for a crotch sneeze or two". I don't understand what you mean by that. And I said I wanted an attractive woman as we all do, so I don't know what you mean by thriving, I don't want a wealthy woman if that's what you mean, for several reasons. Her money means nothing to me, I just want her to be attractive, loyal, and a good positive aspect to my life, mainly. So I don't understand. Do you mean hookers at the end of that? I don't want to go through this for the millionth time. I have ZERO interest in hiring a hooker. It proves nothing of my ability to get women on my own, and will further bolster my views on gold diggers and not being "good enough" to get women on my own. And having to wave money at them to buy access, which I view as pathetic and just another form of pedestalisation. I REALLY don't want yet another derail on the merits of hookers on my journal, if others like it, rock on. Why bother using a sub to attract women if you want to get a hooker? Makes zero sense to me, just go get one if you dig that. I'm not stooping to bribing a girl to touch me, if I was that desperate, and willing to lower my self worth even more with women, I would've done it a long time ago. I'm doing it "the normal way", creating attraction, or not at all. Getting penetration isn't worth further damage to my self worth by buying it. Too high a price tag for me.
I have several targets around me I'm very attracted to, and have mentioned that often. So I don't understand your view that I don't. There's 3 at a minimum right now, a possible 4th that I find physically attractive a lot, but have only known her a few weeks. There's tons of others I don't see in person much or for awhile I find very attractive, I guess that's where these "snipers" and "manifestations" are supposed to come in at some point. We'll see about that.
It would be the biggest mindscrew in the world if girls believed I was too good to be true. They seem to have mistreated me and taken me for granted, LJBF me, or blown me off my whole life. To me, that seems to suggest I'm not valuable for some reason to them. I would find it hard to believe, that all the not texting back, not calling back, not hitting me up for a date or chasing me, mistreatment blah blah blah, dating, sex, everything, is because each of them thought I was too good to be true. It's a nice thought, but I'm not sure I'd buy it given all the behaviour, I figure at least a few of them would've taken a chance at a coffee or something to test it. To me, it suggests some sort of "thing" they're all feeling, I'm not valuable to them somehow despite everything I bring to the table. Still, it would be amusing that some of these waitresses/hostesses I find attractive, somehow feel this way about me, not sure what to do about that or how to see if it's true, though.
I have NEVER been able to figure out a pattern with girls my entire life...except for one thing. Anytime I was only half-into a girl or less, or she THOUGHT I was only half-into her when I was really into her, she seemed to show some real possible signs of attraction. When I actually genuinely liked her after that, it always went to shit, she'd start being ignorant, distant, pulling away, more and more and more, until she's a memory and always "busy" and not responding and being a rude bitch. They don't seem to like it when I like them. So, if only I can somehow like them without liking them...nice paradox there, they're so ridiculous. I'm not even sure they're worth it, tough to know from my perspective, I have real doubts though. But, that's been the only pattern I've observed with any kind of reliability over tons of girls in my life. There must be something to it. I don't understand how to get around it though, makes no sense to me.
Bottom line, I feel the program is far from delivering on the girl front in reality. If V3.3 or so is supposed to be "final", I'm nervous. It feels like WAY too much of a leap to expect real results with real girls in reality in such a short time, given how things are. At this point, despite the higher loop count, I'm still not convinced programs of this nature work.
