12-18-2016, 12:38 PM
(12-18-2016, 11:26 AM)RTBoss Wrote: ROGUE ONE SPOILERS
I'm not that anal with all the "that's too hard to believe," crap. You're watching a movie that has aliens, the Force, and all kinds of shit that defy logic and reality - and you sit in a theater watching a new Star Wars movie thinking, "I don't believe it can happen!" Then don't watch Star Wars anymore. Imagination > logic.
Lol... no. Because there has to be SOME logic to keep continuity/congruence in order to MAINTAIN the illusion/imagination, otherwise we might as well have people flying without spaceships, and impervious to laser blasts.
Here's what I'm talking about:
There's a scene in RO where the walkers are chasing the rebels. There are 2 groups of rebels. The non main characters in the back, and the main characters in the front. The walker shoots beside the non MCs and they die, then the waklker shoots beside the MCs (and closer, at that) and they don't even flinch. I mean seriously?
ANY moment where I realize I'm watching a movie or any moment where I'm like "ok, that happened because these are the good guys" is a major turn off. Because it kicks me out of the universe.
Another example was when the imperials entered the rebel ship to inspect it, and minutes later the rebels (dressed up as the imperials) exit the ship, which is fine, except that the rebel guy had facial hair and the imperial officer who went inside did not, yet the guards and other imperials didn't notice this spontaneous growth of facial hair?? It's just poorly done. It's like the writers have to rely on "hero/good guy physics" to overcome their lack of imaginative story telling.
Don't even get me started on the part where the imperial ship blasts off, sending our heroine flying from the force of the engines while everyone (and everything) else on the platform stayed stationary...
(12-18-2016, 11:26 AM)RTBoss Wrote: Rey doing what she can do? We don't even know who she is yet. Perhaps it was done on purpose. We just don't know.
I say that's convenient.
(12-18-2016, 11:26 AM)RTBoss Wrote: Just attack the Death Star? It's a battle station the size of a small moon, and they had no clue where the weakness was without the stolen plans. THAT would have been hard to believe.
Lol not after what I've seen.
Besides, they're the good guys remember? You gotta let them take liberties!
(You see why continuity is needed now... yes? Good.)
(12-18-2016, 11:26 AM)RTBoss Wrote: And for the movie being about the "good guys win because they're good guys?" Did you forget that THEY ALL DIED in the movie!? This was one of the darkest entries in the entire series. BTW, how is that any different than any of the original trilogy movies? Was Return of the Jedi ruined for you because a bunch of furry teddy bears put the beatdown on the Empire?
My cousin mentioned how there was a certain point in the movie where people started to die. Very true.
I didn't think it was "dark" by any stretch.
Imperial "white uniform" killing the girl instead of going into cliched "bond villian speech mode" would have been dark.
Rebel facial-hair-man killing girl's father when he had the chance would have been dark.
The imperial garrison in the desert town actually winning against the ambush would have been dark (and would have shown the imperials were actually a force to reckon with)
(12-18-2016, 11:26 AM)RTBoss Wrote: If you're that harsh on fantasy movies, you gotta relax. It's all fiction, all completely unbelievable, and that's what makes it so much fun.
Like I said, I don't care that it's fiction, I don't even care that they have a female lead.
But spare me the inconsistencies and "good guy" powers. Spare me the cliches and "motivational/rally speech" moments as well. I've seen enough of those speeches to be able to quote the gist of them:
"Guys, we can't give up. Think of the rebellion! Think of democracy and the good stuff! If we give up now, the galaxy will turn to darkness, the darkside will win, and we will lose. Think of the children!"
Oh yeah, and that part where she gives the robot the gun? Yeah, saw that coming too, despite the robot saying "you constantly surprise me" (didn't see that dialogue coming tho lol)
(12-18-2016, 11:26 AM)RTBoss Wrote: The fan service and Easter Eggs, not to mention the attention to detail (did you notice Red 5 got killed - you know, the call sign Luke takes over when he flies against the Death Star?) I could go on and on about how badass this movie was.
Nostalgia. Yeah I noticed the nostalgia. (not the red 5 call sign. seriously, who gives a f*ck??) I noticed that they used several characters and exact lines from old movies, even exact film footage which was just... ugh! *face palm*.
I don't want to relive memory lane, I want a NEW story in a COOL universe.
Like I said, I thought this one had it at first, then it plummeted.
BUT that is
JUST
MY
OPINION!!
*Think it's why I'm still a virgin?!?!?*