11-20-2016, 02:17 PM
(11-20-2016, 01:46 PM)Sickologist Wrote: Yeah, right. I'm being hostile for saying it the way it is.
If you're alternative strategy doesn't work, which it wouldn't have, I'm gonna point that out. You implied he should have left her alone saying "it doesn't work" (weak move) and flirt with other girls instead. It's a much stronger move to take her on right there saying something like the examples I came up with. In another situation, your way could have worked better and I would've said so. But do you rather I lie or something?
The way Illumi described the situation is something I can see myself in, been there many times before. When a girl says "has that ever worked for you?" it means one of out two things, a) she's inexperienced and is actually asking "SHOULD that work?" or and this was the case here b) she has some experience and tries to establish whether he's a square or a badass cuz she wasn't completely sure yet.
Btw, I've never heard any pua say flip the script. I heard that phrase from a black guy in Florida who was good with women, it made sense to me at the time.
Illumi knows what was going on, robstar read post #8710.
Calling what I said "lame ass textbook rsd crap" is not saying it how it is, it's purely being hostile. Especially since I don't know anything about rsd other than its a pickup site.
I think what you're not getting is I wasn't giving advice on what actions to take to get the girl, I was giving advice on a different perspective of seeing things, and talking about a state of mind(outcome independance). I don't know how you see what I said as a weak move though, it would be if it's done as a tactic as opposed to actually not giving a shit.
Communication is massively non-verbal, saying "nah it doesnt" and walking away is basically saying "I have zero care about your opinion of me". I have literally done the exact thing I described and had the girl come up to me 5 mins later when I was talking to other girls and said "Why'd you leave?". She couldn't handle the fact that I didn't kiss her ass. But yeah there's plenty of cases where I'd walk away in a similar context and nothing would happen, but that's the whole point, it's not a move I'd just rather find a girl that's more fun and isn't afraid to show she's attracted to me. Honestly for me I just hate when girls take the frame of me trying to pick them up, so I can't be bothered at that point. Maybe my ego is too big but I want girls to wanna fuck me, not girls who are trying to size me up.
I do get where you're coming from, it's the classic seduction vs screening debate.
Turning super saiyan.