That was a great explanation CV, props.
I do believe that the problem from the two opposing "camps" , those who want to see how DMSI helps with seduction and those who want to see DMSI accomplish its program goals, is based off the program goals itself and how we perceive success. For example, Chaosvrgn you can read body language quite well (you're experience with "M" comes to mind) so "success" to you would simply mean getting women to give off those signals that YOU perceive as obvious with escalation on your part leading to dates/sex/whatever. Other guys (myself included to an extent) would also consider the subliminal a success at that moment.
Other people would consider a woman sitting next to them and ordering a drink to be enough of an "obvious opener" from which they could escalate the interaction to whatever. For others success would be something along the lines of what happened to Minititan where an attractive Italian (I think she was Italian) milf point blank asked for sex.
That's where the problem is arising. Everyone's idea of "success" varies. For some, the program not getting them the Minititan or Kenpachi experience makes it a bust (which technically isn't wrong) whereas others are content with the Chaosvrgn experience.
I do believe that the problem from the two opposing "camps" , those who want to see how DMSI helps with seduction and those who want to see DMSI accomplish its program goals, is based off the program goals itself and how we perceive success. For example, Chaosvrgn you can read body language quite well (you're experience with "M" comes to mind) so "success" to you would simply mean getting women to give off those signals that YOU perceive as obvious with escalation on your part leading to dates/sex/whatever. Other guys (myself included to an extent) would also consider the subliminal a success at that moment.
Other people would consider a woman sitting next to them and ordering a drink to be enough of an "obvious opener" from which they could escalate the interaction to whatever. For others success would be something along the lines of what happened to Minititan where an attractive Italian (I think she was Italian) milf point blank asked for sex.
That's where the problem is arising. Everyone's idea of "success" varies. For some, the program not getting them the Minititan or Kenpachi experience makes it a bust (which technically isn't wrong) whereas others are content with the Chaosvrgn experience.