Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shawn]

Let's keep DMSI focused on being pursued, not the pursuer.

I disagree with this, though I seem to be in the minority thinking this.

Despite the goal it's important to still be able to deal with the fears and stuff so you CAN talk to girls when you want and move it forward instead of being forced to be passive and wait for them to do it.

Or because of having a mentality of "they should be doing it with this program" that you're falling into. I've even seen it to the extreme of someone being like "Oh this woman come right next to me and smiled big at me but I did nothing because she's meant to do it with DMSI".

Maybe not exactly that but close.

Yes it would be cool having these attractive girls talk to me, I do get it occasionally. But I don't feel that the option to talk to them should be eliminated and it sounds like that is where some guys want it to head. Personally I don't, why not the ability for either.

As a side note, coincidentally from my experience as i've had less 'baggage' around initiating myself, for example when it just flows for me, or when some fear is cleared I actually have girls responding better and sometimes initiate with me without me having to. If you still have all the baggage and fear around initiating it also holds them back from initiating. Sounds weird I know, but i've found that's how it has worked.

Well said! I feel like it is turning into this lazy route for many users. They see a girl hovering around and looking at them. "Oh I refuse to do anything, cause the goal of DMSI is supposed to get women to make a move on me." Are you really gonna cockblock yourself? Just make things easier for the both of you. Say hi to her. She is hoping you would, so make it happen.

It's more than just 'refusing'. Sometimes there is that moment of 'awkward silence' and the guy is in his head 'overthinking things'.

I'm against OAA being in DMSI because the girl is supposed to approach you. As far as I'm concerned that part of DMSI has passed with flying colors!!

I'm all for NSFM being in DMSI, so the guy can have that 'nudge' to confidently move it to the next level. She has already approached... it's time to have a conversation. (think about it, if someone ignored you... you would walk away too)

I often simply get stuck, so it goes even beyond overthinking.

I see why people don't want OAA and some even NSFM (by the way, I like the idea of NSFM being in 3.0). Because the goal of this sub is to get women to approach YOU. And we should give Shannon the time to figure it out. But at the end we are using the sub to get laid. So if the women-approach-you approach shouldn't work as desired I don't see any reason why we shouldn't turn this sub in some kind of Universal Seduction Aid, which tries to get woman to approach you but empowers the user also to approach them.