Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Duke.Togo]

The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto.

I like the concept of subliminals but I think that using true hypnosis where suggestions encounter no resistance is probably the most efficient means of programming in the shortest amount of time. Subs will definitely make an impact over time if you stick with them though.

The conscious mind cannot filter what they do not have access to; therefore, anything that is genuinely subliminal will not be affected by or affectable by the conscious mind except in terms of the way it affects the actions and reactions of the subconscious trying to express itself, which it can override and squelch in some cases.

The state of awareness you are in is only useful for affecting the conscious mind/state, and that will therefore only make a difference in terms of dealing with what the subconscious mind is trying to do or express. Not programming it with subliminals.

Since hypnosis relies on a cooperative conscious awareness, it will typically not work for a conscious mind that would resist/reject the effects of a subliminal anyway. Subliminals are a superior solution in this regard, especially with some of the technologies I have been developing.

True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it.

The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities.

Wouldn't the state you're referring to here be more of a zoned out phase.

It is a state of hypnosis.

And if we are on the topic of advertising, I'm not sure if you are referring to social programming or subliminal advertising.

I don't really think either of those states actually qualify as hypnotic states. Maybe trance like, but not hypnotic.

They do qualify as hypnotic states.

I stand corrected. I was under the impression that these were not considered hypnotic states.