For Shannon / creating anti aging sub

[Raykon]

Alpha360, plants do not have emotions. You have no idea what you're talkikng about. They have no pain receptors.

When you're killing an animal, you're killing another creature with ears, eyes, taste, nose and the ability to think and feel pain. A pig is as smart as a three year old child and a dog.

I don't know if plant have emotions, I should have said "maybe they have emotions", I never studied plant in depth to know that, this was mainly Hercules argument not mine. I just thought I would agree with him because it sounded correct. My bad maybe. But what you are saying there doesn't prove plants doesn't have emotions. It proves they don't feel pain like we do. Like I said they are lower evolved. I still think there something that happen when we kill a plant, I don't know if emotions is the correct term. Again very negligible compared to animals but there is still something.

You ever see a cow laying on the grass chilling wagging it's tail? Looks allot like a dog. Humans have been brainwashed into thinking meat is the healthy way to live, the meat and dairy industry funds the medical industry so that they make more profits.


And lets be honest, how many of you are eating pure organic wild meat. Which is still not healthy but not nearly as bad as the slaughterhouse meats you eat full of hormones, negative suffering energy from being tortured to death and seeing other animals die right before you die, and fed a poor GMO diet.

I agree with that. I mainly want to eat plants because of health and karma which I believed are linked.

I don't care if you hate animals but don't deny that it's bad for you. Human intestines are very long unlike other meat eaters so the disgusting meat doesn't go in and out quickly like a lion for example. It takes a long time to travel and it's not healthy for our body's.

Our canines are from evolution not natural & they aren't nearly as strong or as big as a real carnivore. We are also the only animal that has to cook there meat or else they would DIE eating it.

Very interesting. But I didn't die from eating not cooked beef and I did eat a lot of it for a long time. And a lot of french do the same. So maybe you are exaggerating here but I agree about your main idea.

It's also common believe that we ate primarily meat as cave men. While we did eat meat many civilizations survived primarily on non animal sources.

We are vegetarians by nature that developed the ability to eat meat, through manipulation (fire) and evolution.

Go to any hospital I guarantee you won't find any sick vegans. I guarentee they ate a primarily meat diet if they have Cancer and some other illnesses.

Well vegans still get sick but not as often and not for the same reason. I wouldn't expect to be disease free because I eat only plants. I also think a lot of plants can cause disease if you eat the wrong one. I also I think different individuals have different diet requirement, one plant can kill one and can heal another. This is mainly why I see India's knowledge so appealing because they described all those things in some books. While in the west the main idea is to think that meat is bad and all plants are good what ever plant it is, at least the common vegetarian in the west. I think this is the reason a lot of western guy fail to become full vegan; or vegetarian.

I've been a vegan for the last 4 months and the 4 months prior I was vegetarian. I'm 160 lbs 5'6 and quite muscular. I don't eat any meat or dairy or fish.

All fish have allot worms and bacteria in it's body btw from the garbage they eat.

So you don't eat butter and milk too I guess?

I personally would put fish in the same categories as meat maybe a little less problematic as long as the fish is healthy. Which might be rare nowadays.

But butter and milk I'm still not sure about it. I need to study more about diet anyway, I'm walking half blind here.

Yeah I don't eat any animal products. I'll have it extremely indirectly like through a cookie but only if I'm starving and I have nothing else I can eat (like If i was at work or something)

Fish is unhealthy because of the worms/bacteria in there flesh, also because of mercury and other chemicals that are now in almost all the fish in the sea I believe.

Yeah but obviously one would want to know what they eat before they eat it, meat or veggies you don't eat something without finding out it's not poisonous.

Fruit and veggies are commonly known and proven by science to put your body in an alkaline state in which Cancer does not thrive and grow. Fruit smoothies and fruit are some of the best best things you can eat.

Also there is something very primal and holistic about eating vegetables and fruit for me and nuts. I feel so full & healthy and literally everything I eat is FULL of minerals and antioxidants and Vitamins.

Maybe it's just a mental thing but I feel great after my meals now. No more processed food either because it's almost impossible to eat processed food as a vegan unless you buy allot of store fake meat substitutes.

Some btw that taste EXACTLY like hamburgers. The burger substitute is identical in taste and look but it is completely cruelty free.

Being a Vegan is difficult for a few reasons, societal pressure and stigma, If you don't know how to cook it can be difficult, and less choices when you eat out. Sushi has lots of options though for vegetarians/vegans and most big cities have lots of options. Veganism is becoming mainstream and in demand so businesses are adapting.

I for one will never harm another soul on this planet ever again unless they attempt to harm me or family / friends. And it feels good knowing that.

If you do your research there are lots of great food options that taste amazing that you can learn to cook and also there is more then enough natural foods with AMAZING protein and vitamin content. The only vitamin you can only get from animals is Vitamin B12. But you can buy chewable pills that taste good and that is the solution to that "problem"

Also unrelated earlier today I found out 1 in 440 Canadians die from Cardiovascular disease each year. That's a huge number. And meat is PROBABLY a big reason why that happens.