Shannon's DMSI V2.2 Journal

[chaosvrgn]

Oh, I don't have "IOI hatred", I just have doubts due to long term issues I've described, so these IOIs are questioned and doubted. That's it, it's not some "IOI hatred". I know those are the first signs, I've seen how girls look at guys they think or say are hot, and without them nothing can happen, but that doesn't stop the questioning of them happening to me due to issues. I don't think women have acted that same way to me, they seem to be far more obvious to other guys. But maybe that always is the case because you can be outside the situation and have a better viewpoint or something. I'm pretty sure I've never had that level of obviousness, I would remember it and it would help me see it's possible.

You pick up on the signals and go with them because you've HAD success with women, so there's confirmation there that the signals are correct and that you can be successful with women etc. I haven't had that, so there's doubt and questioning of these signals from women each time. It's kinda like a train I guess, once it has that momentum going, it's in a groove. Starting it is difficult. That's why I said I feel for situations like this, blunt, massive real world success is most effective at snapping you out of this spiral, anything less is vulnerable to being discounted. And just getting IOIs and using that as confirmation a sexual program is working, is faulty I feel. IOIs can be either misinterpreted because you want to believe it's working, or because there is an issue with you believing it's possible to get them to begin with. It goes both ways to be fair. I just don't want to get my hopes up being the "omg a girl looked at me, wow this program works!" guy. I want to be focused on the actual goal of this program, otherwise I might as well not use it.

That's what I was saying. It was more of to add on to what Gotcha said, instead of somewhat of a personal "poor me" post. I do think there's some benefit in there, though.

I'm with you, man. Only thing I want to clarify is that I wasn't born a natural. Took a long time and lots of blowouts and disappointment to even get to a halfway decent level.

The question is: ... is the modern woman even worth all the trouble and emotional pain?

Yeah, I can get laid, but I've got some serious resentment toward women for the way I was treated getting to that point.