(08-16-2016, 11:48 AM)CatMan Wrote: To be honest, I'm sick of guys getting denigrated for "waiting for women to approach them"...the POINT of the sub is to make women so attracted they approach you to have sex with you as easily and often as possible apparently. All those people are doing, is measuring the sub based off the copy on the sales page and the focus of the program to note it's effectiveness in it's goal. If you saw an opportunity to approach a woman that seems interested, great, that's a bonus, but the main point of the program is to make them approach out of being extremely attracted and wanting you sexually. So judging the program on the effectiveness of that is reasonable. I'm confused why Ricardo in particular got butchered by people, simply by asking about the program's real tangible success in creating new lays and boiling down the BS hyperbole: "women are looking at me, they don't approach me to have sex but they totally want to have sex with me obviously, this thing works, wow!" surrounding it. If we're not honest and objective about the program, how can the program make progress?
I'm already pretty skeptical due to past disappointments with "auras"/attraction programs, I'm not sold that they work at all. So I'll need to see an actual real change to believe they can work, something that happens that I will honestly be able to say couldn't have happened before the sub, I think that's fair. There's a lot of things that fall into that box, so the sub has plenty of chances to prove itself to me, I'm not being unfair to it, I'll give it a chance again. I'll try it and keep as open a mind as possible, but I won't read into things that aren't there, just because I want to see the program work, as I think many are doing. If the program works as advertised, there should be no doubt of it's effectiveness, so let the program speak for itself, I say. Be honest, be grounded and objective, and observe, that's how Shannon can get GOOD feedback he can use to advance the program so that it does work if there's an issue, if it's possible to advance it to the goal of this program. I'm not sure it is, we'll see. That's all I'm saying.
Well we have to keep in mind it's still early but also keep in mind female sexuality is very different than male sexuality. When a woman is smiling and orbiting you she's basically saying "HEY COME BANG ME!" - when the guy doesn't do anything her response isn't "try harder" it's "dammit he's not interested" and they feel rejected.
This is why some guys who run magnets (wm2/sm3) have less attractive women being mean, in their mind they assume you already rejected them because you're out of their league so their response isn't to try harder it's to hate your mere existence.
