I have to agree with you Rayhon but we have to keep in mind we can't walk a mile in these guys' shoes and we haven't lived through their experiences.
I personally find many male-centric forums are overrun with maybe not hatred but anger and frustration and I'm not bluepilled mangina, I know that neither men nor women can be perfect, but I honestly can't relate to it. I don't come across shitbags (male or female) often but when I do I cut them out ASAP and move on. What does worry me though is that most of this frustration stems from failure with women and it's a vicious cycle, because the more anger and frustration you have towards women the more negative energy you're going to project on them, the more you're going to attract these types of women.
Joe Rogan, not known for his belief in spirituality, auras, or even self help in general mentioned this not too long ago on his podcast. He had one friend who just didn't have a good experience with girls in his teens and then in his 20s/30s he tried using his money to attract women and of course they were the wrong type of women. Obviously they mistreated him, it made him more angry and as time went on "normal" women got more and more fearful and mistrusting of him until Joe and his friend actually had to kick the guy out of their circle because he was always angry, bitter, and actively repelling women just by being nearby. Any girl that was into him was just an absolute mental mess which of course fueled the cycle even further.
His is probably an extreme case but it is a classic case of "like attracts like" but if you take the auras generated by subliminals and the manifestations that occur from them then it's impossible to ignore that "what you project is what you get" and while I don't care much for movements like redpill and mgtow I do feel sorry for the guys who are probably going to end up making their women problem even worse in the long run.
People aren't robots or logical math problems, they are complex and messy. Ask gays and lesbians if they have dating problems and they'll say yes. Ask someone if they ever had a shitty boss or a friend lie and stab them in the back and they will say yes. It's not a "dating women" problem it's a "people" problem.
In the end it's probably better that they think "all women are lying whores, but MAYBE there is 1 who will prove me wrong" rather than "all women are perfect and I am the one who is at fault for anything bad that happens" - as many bluepilled manginas like to believe. At least with #1 they have some hope.
I personally find many male-centric forums are overrun with maybe not hatred but anger and frustration and I'm not bluepilled mangina, I know that neither men nor women can be perfect, but I honestly can't relate to it. I don't come across shitbags (male or female) often but when I do I cut them out ASAP and move on. What does worry me though is that most of this frustration stems from failure with women and it's a vicious cycle, because the more anger and frustration you have towards women the more negative energy you're going to project on them, the more you're going to attract these types of women.
Joe Rogan, not known for his belief in spirituality, auras, or even self help in general mentioned this not too long ago on his podcast. He had one friend who just didn't have a good experience with girls in his teens and then in his 20s/30s he tried using his money to attract women and of course they were the wrong type of women. Obviously they mistreated him, it made him more angry and as time went on "normal" women got more and more fearful and mistrusting of him until Joe and his friend actually had to kick the guy out of their circle because he was always angry, bitter, and actively repelling women just by being nearby. Any girl that was into him was just an absolute mental mess which of course fueled the cycle even further.
His is probably an extreme case but it is a classic case of "like attracts like" but if you take the auras generated by subliminals and the manifestations that occur from them then it's impossible to ignore that "what you project is what you get" and while I don't care much for movements like redpill and mgtow I do feel sorry for the guys who are probably going to end up making their women problem even worse in the long run.
People aren't robots or logical math problems, they are complex and messy. Ask gays and lesbians if they have dating problems and they'll say yes. Ask someone if they ever had a shitty boss or a friend lie and stab them in the back and they will say yes. It's not a "dating women" problem it's a "people" problem.
In the end it's probably better that they think "all women are lying whores, but MAYBE there is 1 who will prove me wrong" rather than "all women are perfect and I am the one who is at fault for anything bad that happens" - as many bluepilled manginas like to believe. At least with #1 they have some hope.