Shannon's DMSI V2.2 Journal

[Shannon]

Sarge, on meeting them half way:

Consider that you and every other guy wants to just be super awesome and stand there and have women throw themselves backwards on your dick and **** you senseless without you even having to open your eyes when you blink.

Consider that until we figure out how to do that, trying to do everything possible to make sex happen is going to help make sex happen.

I have lots of stories about women giving me IOIs where nothing happened because I just stood there waiting for them to initiate. They won't initiate in the ways I was looking for because they were not sufficiently motivated. I wasn't good enough looking, or wealthy enough, or famous enough, or powerful enough, or whatever.

So until we figure out what the magic "it" factor is - and remember, I have to do this for men AND women, mind you! - we are going to have to put in some effort and meet them half way sometimes. Because that's how things work in reality.

I get that we have to put in the effort, but I think "meet them halfway" was a mindset issue for me (entitlement maybe? or lack thereof) rather than saying women should just jump my d!ck.

I wasn't saying they should just jump my d!ck.

I was saying that if we be a certain way, then we'll be more attractive, and that that way (in my experience) has never been "fair" or "give and take" (i.e. "meet them halfway").

Hope that clarifies.

Of course I think we should do our part, but my post was aimed at what I believe we should become as a result of the sub. I'm trying to define the "it" factor myself and now that I'm thinking about it, a lot of things are clicking. Even today in sales women were responding differently to me because it was on my mind I assume.

But I just hope you know I'm not pressuring you or anything. I support you 100%. I just get so passionate when I want to help with something, so maybe my post came off a bit wrong, if so I apologize.

Hi Sarge,

You misunderstood me. I'll clarify.

I used the term "meet them half way" because that's the term Shannon has used, to describe the programming that already exists in the program, designed to take us from seeing IOIs, to moving things forward when we feel like it. I just connected the dots from them seeing us and wanting us, to us closing the deal if we choose to through that programming probably designed to bypass fears in us. Of course, they can still open us and escalate if they choose to. I wasn't saying that's the only way it should go down, as us as the aggressor, as that would contradict the first part of my comment.

I hope it's clearer now.

Not really. That's actually really confusing.

But I think there's a big misunderstanding (probably on my part). When I read "meet them halfway" I get caught up in the "nice guy/gentleman" idea it projects in my head. I was simply trying to illustrate what I've noticed works better, and trying to emphasize that we need "it" somehow developed in the programming.

It's no problem. I just want us to have as much probability for sex to result as possible until it becomes so ridiculous that we don't need that anymore. If that ever happens.