Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Really Chaosvrgn? Yes obviously you disagree and that's cool. But starting to attack members by calling them retards, stupid ass and comapring them to Elliot Rogers isn't.

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I never called anyone a "retard" -- that word isn't any of my posts. It's not a word I use because I have a cousin that's mentally challenged and he's had to deal with that his entire life. I said the view that black men are stealing up all the white women is "stupid ass" not the actual person. But I'm going to be real and honest here: Yeah, I'm a bit on edge and went hard. Why? Am I the only person watching the news?

I ain't on some SJW "safe spaces" nonsense and I don't believe in censorship, but there's nowhere a black man can go to avoid listening to a bunch of BS. Can't ever read the comments of ANY website without hearing a bunch of nonsense about black people ruining someone's life.

Crime in America? Black people. Welfare? Black people (despite the fact that statistics show that it's a pretty even split between the races). And then, I come here, thinking this is a community of rather enlightened people and what do I see?

The black bogeymen are stealing up all the women. Really? If black people fail -- society says we suck. If black people win -- society says we suck. If we get money -- we suck. If we get women -- we suck. At a certain point, you get tired of seeing it, so you start telling people to STFU and deal with their problems, because that's what Black America's being told all the time.

"This is a post-racial society, if you can't make it, it's because you suck. STOP BEING A VICTIM!"
- America

Meanwhile, people are sneaking online talking about how black people suck and are stealing up all the women. And we see and hear this everyday, and if we dare say something, it's "omg chaosvrgn, why are you so mad?!?!?!?!" Or, how about a few pages later on this thread when the guy claimed that only "aggressive white women" are into black men. In other words, low quality and undesirable. The soft and demure women would NEVER go for a black man. Hate to tell you, I've been with many white women, and very few of them were "aggressive," but whatever.

I'm at a place in my life where I cannot stand by and just calmly listen to such nonsense. But I'm a businessman, I get it: this is a company, one that cannot allow the #angryblackman to run off people, regardless of how ridiculous their views are. I do have to question why me saying "stupid ass" is so offensive, but no one blinks at the claim that black men only attracts "aggressive white women." But I get it, yada yada freezed peach.

So, I'll watch my words in the future, keep it on the more civil side, but I'm not making any promises of being silent in the face of those kinda comments. And if that means you've gotta fire me as a client and/or eject me from the community, then I guess that's just the natural order of things.

Chaos, I understand why you're angry. I don't understand it from the point of view of an angry black man, having not had your experiences. But I can see that what you have spoken about represents genuine and repeated injustice. However, we are trying to be a community. If you voice your concerns, please do so in accordance with the rules. Instead of directing your anger at people, do what I do. If you must, write a post blasting the hell out of them, get it out, and then erase that and write one that is civil.

But please understand this is a community, and we want everyone to try to value everyone else's position and opinion. No matter what we think of it. I certainly don't agree with everyone on everything, and sometimes I think some of the things I read on here qualify for the Darwin award. Sometimes, I even disagree with you, although I have never thought you deserved the Darwin award. But I still treat you with respect, partly because you're a customer, but also partly because I am following forum rules, and partly because I respect you for various other reasons.

If out of nothing else, please respect the rules. Civil debate is always more effective anyway, since your opponents in the debate will be more willing to listen to what you have to say and consider it.