Shannon's Journal Discussion

[dweller94]

By the way, we appear to be experiencing some back end issues with the website, so it may be a bit for getting these available in the store. We are working on it.

That's awesome, Shannon I am currently running AYPG and Aah the time it could possibly take 5G in this would be a god send. I know it may be time consuming and difficult but this would just be truly perfect ... *perfect girlfriend*

[Natious]

Laser focus on only removing the darkness? How about add some light at the same time. At first I thought focusing on just fear is a good idea, now I'm thinking there is a better way to deal with it and looking at some of the scripts, they are worded this way.
Also if you read the previous script for OF, it already includes statements about courage, bravery and confidence. So it's not only about removing the fear to reach the goal of being free of fear. Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal.

[mat422]

Laser focus on only removing the darkness? How about add some light at the same time. At first I thought focusing on just fear is a good idea, now I'm thinking there is a better way to deal with it and looking at some of the scripts, they are worded this way.
Also if you read the previous script for OF, it already includes statements about courage, bravery and confidence. So it's not only about removing the fear to reach the goal of being free of fear. Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal.

I'm like 90% certain Shannon is keeping that stuff in. OF 5g is really just an updated version of OF 4g with more power behind it. And Shannon is well aware of replacing the negative with positive, he's discussed it in previous journal entries. The man knows what he's doing.

Also as a side note have you guys ever noticed how the earlier AM and subliminal programs worked really well for guys? Back then Shannon was doing his own thing and people weren't bombarding him with suggestions. It's better to have one program that tackles the single issue fully, than have it try to attack multiple issues and fail at all of them. Worst comes to worst you have to run another program to deal with the stuff remaining. I'm not saying suggestions are bad, but Shannon has a lifetime of experience studying the subconscious and doing actual experiments with it. He's not just about theory. No disrespect to some guys here but you are talking about these things as if you know they would help, but you don't have first hand experience of what goes into the scripts and how multiple suggestions interact with each other.

I noticed a trend here, similar to what happens to user applications. You start off with a great program that executes its purpose beautifully, but then a bunch of suggestions start bloating up the program. Suddenly it's expected to do everything and now it's clunky and slow. We don't want that for subliminals.

[Natious]

Laser focus on only removing the darkness? How about add some light at the same time. At first I thought focusing on just fear is a good idea, now I'm thinking there is a better way to deal with it and looking at some of the scripts, they are worded this way.
Also if you read the previous script for OF, it already includes statements about courage, bravery and confidence. So it's not only about removing the fear to reach the goal of being free of fear. Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal.

I'm like 90% certain Shannon is keeping that stuff in. OF 5g is really just an updated version of OF 4g with more power behind it. And Shannon is well aware of replacing the negative with positive, he's discussed it in previous journal entries. The man knows what he's doing.

Also as a side note have you guys ever noticed how the earlier AM and subliminal programs worked really well for guys? Back then Shannon was doing his own thing and people weren't bombarding him with suggestions. It's better to have one program that tackles the single issue fully, than have it try to attack multiple issues and fail at all of them. Worst comes to worst you have to run another program to deal with the stuff remaining. I'm not saying suggestions are bad, but Shannon has a lifetime of experience studying the subconscious and doing actual experiments with it. He's not just about theory. No disrespect to some guys here but you are talking about these things as if you know they would help, but you don't have first hand experience of what goes into the scripts and how multiple suggestions interact with each other.

I noticed a trend here, similar to what happens to user applications. You start off with a great program that executes its purpose beautifully, but then a bunch of suggestions start bloating up the program. Suddenly it's expected to do everything and now it's clunky and slow. We don't want that for subliminals.

I think you have misunderstood the meaning behind my post which was directed to people who say that OF should focus solely on removing the fears. I didn't mention negative or positive statements with one word. It is an old news that negative statements in most cases don't work and if they do result in the opposite effect, it's actually the foundation of how subliminals and affirmations work.

It is easy to say that of5g is just 4g with more power behind it. If Shannon knows what he's doing he won't consider the ideas that would make the sub worse. I agree on OF being focused on the goal, confidence, self esteem, courage and bravery are part of that in my opinion. But it's still just my opinion.

Also there's too many ''I noticed the trend here'' posts.

[mat422]

Laser focus on only removing the darkness? How about add some light at the same time. At first I thought focusing on just fear is a good idea, now I'm thinking there is a better way to deal with it and looking at some of the scripts, they are worded this way.
Also if you read the previous script for OF, it already includes statements about courage, bravery and confidence. So it's not only about removing the fear to reach the goal of being free of fear. Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal.

I'm like 90% certain Shannon is keeping that stuff in. OF 5g is really just an updated version of OF 4g with more power behind it. And Shannon is well aware of replacing the negative with positive, he's discussed it in previous journal entries. The man knows what he's doing.

Also as a side note have you guys ever noticed how the earlier AM and subliminal programs worked really well for guys? Back then Shannon was doing his own thing and people weren't bombarding him with suggestions. It's better to have one program that tackles the single issue fully, than have it try to attack multiple issues and fail at all of them. Worst comes to worst you have to run another program to deal with the stuff remaining. I'm not saying suggestions are bad, but Shannon has a lifetime of experience studying the subconscious and doing actual experiments with it. He's not just about theory. No disrespect to some guys here but you are talking about these things as if you know they would help, but you don't have first hand experience of what goes into the scripts and how multiple suggestions interact with each other.

I noticed a trend here, similar to what happens to user applications. You start off with a great program that executes its purpose beautifully, but then a bunch of suggestions start bloating up the program. Suddenly it's expected to do everything and now it's clunky and slow. We don't want that for subliminals.

I think you have misunderstood the meaning behind my post which was directed to people who say that OF should focus solely on removing the fears. I didn't mention negative or positive statements with one word. It is an old news that negative statements in most cases don't work and if they do result in the opposite effect, it's actually the foundation of how subliminals and affirmations work.

It is easy to say that of5g is just 4g with more power behind it. If Shannon knows what he's doing he won't consider the ideas that would make the sub worse. I agree on OF being focused on the goal, confidence, self esteem, courage and bravery are part of that in my opinion. But it's still just my opinion.

Also there's too many ''I noticed the trend here'' posts.

No I got what you were saying. I used negative and positive as good and bad. Meaning Shannon removes bad things like fear and replaces them with things like courage. It's part of his programs. Bad programming needs to replaced with something good in order to stick.

Eh, I'd have to disagree there. A lot of people asked for a ton of stuff in AM 5.0 and that turned out a bit underwhelming for most. I'd prefer for that not to happen again. Like I said though, OF 4g has the bravery and courage suggestions in it so I'm pretty sure he's keeping those in 5g. But things like self esteem are best reserved for other subs. Fear is a common sticking point for a lot of guys around here and the more focus that can be put on fear and it's removal, the more successful the program.

[dissonance]

Laser focus on only removing the darkness? How about add some light at the same time. At first I thought focusing on just fear is a good idea, now I'm thinking there is a better way to deal with it and looking at some of the scripts, they are worded this way.
Also if you read the previous script for OF, it already includes statements about courage, bravery and confidence. So it's not only about removing the fear to reach the goal of being free of fear. Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal.

I'm like 90% certain Shannon is keeping that stuff in. OF 5g is really just an updated version of OF 4g with more power behind it. And Shannon is well aware of replacing the negative with positive, he's discussed it in previous journal entries. The man knows what he's doing.

Also as a side note have you guys ever noticed how the earlier AM and subliminal programs worked really well for guys? Back then Shannon was doing his own thing and people weren't bombarding him with suggestions. It's better to have one program that tackles the single issue fully, than have it try to attack multiple issues and fail at all of them. Worst comes to worst you have to run another program to deal with the stuff remaining. I'm not saying suggestions are bad, but Shannon has a lifetime of experience studying the subconscious and doing actual experiments with it. He's not just about theory. No disrespect to some guys here but you are talking about these things as if you know they would help, but you don't have first hand experience of what goes into the scripts and how multiple suggestions interact with each other.

I noticed a trend here, similar to what happens to user applications. You start off with a great program that executes its purpose beautifully, but then a bunch of suggestions start bloating up the program. Suddenly it's expected to do everything and now it's clunky and slow. We don't want that for subliminals.

I think you have misunderstood the meaning behind my post which was directed to people who say that OF should focus solely on removing the fears. I didn't mention negative or positive statements with one word. It is an old news that negative statements in most cases don't work and if they do result in the opposite effect, it's actually the foundation of how subliminals and affirmations work.

It is easy to say that of5g is just 4g with more power behind it. If Shannon knows what he's doing he won't consider the ideas that would make the sub worse. I agree on OF being focused on the goal, confidence, self esteem, courage and bravery are part of that in my opinion. But it's still just my opinion.

Also there's too many ''I noticed the trend here'' posts.

No I got what you were saying. I used negative and positive as good and bad. Meaning Shannon removes bad things like fear and replaces them with things like courage. It's part of his programs. Bad programming needs to replaced with something good in order to stick.

Eh, I'd have to disagree there. A lot of people asked for a ton of stuff in AM 5.0 and that turned out a bit underwhelming for most. I'd prefer for that not to happen again. Like I said though, OF 4g has the bravery and courage suggestions in it so I'm pretty sure he's keeping those in 5g. But things like self esteem are best reserved for other subs. Fear is a common sticking point for a lot of guys around here and the more focus that can be put on fear and it's removal, the more successful the program.

"You start off with a great program that executes its purpose beautifully, but then a bunch of suggestions start bloating up the program."

Yeah I agree, care with deciding what to add may be important. However, I do agree with Natious saying:
"Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal."

However, not too much, just some specific and focused assistance with confidence, courage, self-esteem and self-value, or self-love, etc, script lines, not an entire huge bombardment of them. Also, adding more fear destroying lines would help keep the proportion of fear-focused lines to other supplements (self-esteem, courage) high, so that the programming is still in proportion. Finally, I don't think we should add overcome anxiety; that's for a different sub, plus, I don't know how destroying fear wouldn't destroy anxiety.

[dissonance]

By the way, we appear to be experiencing some back end issues with the website, so it may be a bit for getting these available in the store. We are working on it.

That's awesome, Shannon I am currently running AYPG and Aah the time it could possibly take 5G in this would be a god send. I know it may be time consuming and difficult but this would just be truly perfect ... *perfect girlfriend*

YES! And hopefully there will be different versions of the Girlfriend one like Stunningly Beautiful, Mixed Race, and Naturally Platinum Blonde.

[RTBoss]

If there are new AYP/MYP subs, changing just 1 or 2 words, I'd like to see "Athletic" and "Spiritually Enlightened/Evolved" sexual/romantic lover.

[Natious]

That's pretty much what I meant, not making OF a huge program, but add a little bit to keep confidence and self esteem at reasonable levels.
Don't really know about AM5 vs AM6 comparison. When only AM5 was out, there weren't as many users here so the amount of people being disappointed would have been less then now on AM6. Never the less I think AM should get an upgrade, I personally had no results with it. That makes me think that I am one of the more resistant types, or just not in the place where AM6 could effectively make a difference, hence the long OF run.

[dissonance]

That's pretty much what I meant, not making OF a huge program, but add a little bit to keep confidence and self esteem at reasonable levels.
Don't really know about AM5 vs AM6 comparison. When only AM5 was out, there weren't as many users here so the amount of people being disappointed would have been less then now on AM6. Never the less I think AM should get an upgrade, I personally had no results with it. That makes me think that I am one of the more resistant types, or just not in the place where AM6 could effectively make a difference, hence the long OF run.

Not even internal changes in your AM6 run? I know that for me, I'm still living at home, with my mom and sis after my AM6 run, but I do for sure have more confidence, and more comfortable in my shoes, etc, higher self-esteem.

[Multiworld]

Laser focus on only removing the darkness? How about add some light at the same time. At first I thought focusing on just fear is a good idea, now I'm thinking there is a better way to deal with it and looking at some of the scripts, they are worded this way.
Also if you read the previous script for OF, it already includes statements about courage, bravery and confidence. So it's not only about removing the fear to reach the goal of being free of fear. Statements regarding confidence and self esteem, maybe even self value could be helpful for the user to reach the goal.

I'm like 90% certain Shannon is keeping that stuff in. OF 5g is really just an updated version of OF 4g with more power behind it. And Shannon is well aware of replacing the negative with positive, he's discussed it in previous journal entries. The man knows what he's doing.

Also as a side note have you guys ever noticed how the earlier AM and subliminal programs worked really well for guys? Back then Shannon was doing his own thing and people weren't bombarding him with suggestions. It's better to have one program that tackles the single issue fully, than have it try to attack multiple issues and fail at all of them. Worst comes to worst you have to run another program to deal with the stuff remaining. I'm not saying suggestions are bad, but Shannon has a lifetime of experience studying the subconscious and doing actual experiments with it. He's not just about theory. No disrespect to some guys here but you are talking about these things as if you know they would help, but you don't have first hand experience of what goes into the scripts and how multiple suggestions interact with each other.

I noticed a trend here, similar to what happens to user applications. You start off with a great program that executes its purpose beautifully, but then a bunch of suggestions start bloating up the program. Suddenly it's expected to do everything and now it's clunky and slow. We don't want that for subliminals.

I think you have misunderstood the meaning behind my post which was directed to people who say that OF should focus solely on removing the fears. I didn't mention negative or positive statements with one word. It is an old news that negative statements in most cases don't work and if they do result in the opposite effect, it's actually the foundation of how subliminals and affirmations work.

It is easy to say that of5g is just 4g with more power behind it. If Shannon knows what he's doing he won't consider the ideas that would make the sub worse. I agree on OF being focused on the goal, confidence, self esteem, courage and bravery are part of that in my opinion. But it's still just my opinion.

Also there's too many ''I noticed the trend here'' posts.

I think whats important to Shannon is a little brain storming,you have to admit he's a genius,if you don't think so,tell me what subs have you ever experience that works as goods as his,I know you don't follow anyone blindly but his experience is known and his products works and I stick with what works.
You guys come up with good ideas at times and I'm sure Shannon considers what will work and what wont,so I say keep the ideas coming,it can't hurt. but then I take that back,sometimes we have to wait longer for new release,just joking!

[Natious]

I have a journal on AM, I can't remember exactly what I felt like, but it was rather negative. The only sad thing about AM6 is that you have to be in a certain place in life to have a positive result from a run.

I have used some other subs from other producers, but not for a long time. About 5 years ago I used to make my own subs and they worked great.

I might have badly worded my last post, English is not my first language. I didn't mean that Shannon doesn't know what he's doing. I meant that he does and therefor doesn't add to the script any statements that would necessarily make the sub worse.

[Multiworld]

It's all good,I understood,I was just adding that a little brain storming is a good idea for a win win situation for Shannon and us but it's cool i understood your intent,have a good one!

[JackOfHearts]

"Spiritually Enlightened/Evolved" sexual/romantic lover.

I like that idea, spiritualy evolved or spiritualy mature something like that. So it would be "spiritually evolved sexual lover". Enlightened would be impossible unless you are enlightened I guess.