Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[CatMan]

I believe he said 3 days to 3 weeks. Somewhere in between that time.

Hi @Shannon , how are things progressing with OF V3 since your last update? I know the release was said to be unlikely for April sadly, but what about May?

Basically we will know when I get the config settings finished, and that depends on how cooperative the models are.  That's why I gave a range of time.

I was also wondering how things in general with the sub were progressing and where development is at as well. Hope things are going good. And that you are too!

[Shannon]

I believe he said 3 days to 3 weeks. Somewhere in between that time.

Hi @Shannon , how are things progressing with OF V3 since your last update? I know the release was said to be unlikely for April sadly, but what about May?

Basically we will know when I get the config settings finished, and that depends on how cooperative the models are.  That's why I gave a range of time.

I was also wondering how things in general with the sub were progressing and where development is at as well. Hope things are going good. And that you are too!

I'm doing alright.  Been generally in need of a surprising amount of rest since I stopped developing the script.  That took a bigger amount of energy than I realized, and it unexpectedly overtook and overwhelmed me.  I may have been a bit too zealous in my efforts to do that.

The sub is currently making progress on configuration of the FRM component.  I have it down to two options, and now I need to find which one is the overall best option.  That should be done today, with any luck.

Then I need to determine the value of five other configuration variables, which represents an unkown amount of time.  If the models cooperate... maybe 2-3 days.  If not... ?

Once that is done, building the resulting mostrosity of complexity will probably require a few more days.

I am not looking forward to trying to find the usage patterns for this thing... this is such a leap from what we were doing before that I basically have no idea what I'm looking for.  Is it one loop per day?  per 2 days? 3? 5? 7? Or maybe more than one per day?  I have a lot of modeling to do on that point alone.  This is the biggest step up in complexity, potential power and advancement I have ever made in a single move.  So that may take some time too.

But it will be worth the wait.  Remember, it's not taking so long just because the models are not fully stable.  It's taking this long because we are basically re-writing the "how to make this" handbook from scratch.  That's how big the difference is between 5.75.6G and 5.75.7G is.  Bear with me.  I can't afford to make mistakes with this.

[CatMan]

I believe he said 3 days to 3 weeks. Somewhere in between that time.

Hi @Shannon , how are things progressing with OF V3 since your last update? I know the release was said to be unlikely for April sadly, but what about May?

Basically we will know when I get the config settings finished, and that depends on how cooperative the models are.  That's why I gave a range of time.

I was also wondering how things in general with the sub were progressing and where development is at as well. Hope things are going good. And that you are too!

I'm doing alright.  Been generally in need of a surprising amount of rest since I stopped developing the script.  That took a bigger amount of energy than I realized, and it unexpectedly overtook and overwhelmed me.  I may have been a bit too zealous in my efforts to do that.

The sub is currently making progress on configuration of the FRM component.  I have it down to two options, and now I need to find which one is the overall best option.  That should be done today, with any luck.

Then I need to determine the value of five other configuration variables, which represents an unkown amount of time.  If the models cooperate... maybe 2-3 days.  If not... ?

Once that is done, building the resulting mostrosity of complexity will probably require a few more days.

I am not looking forward to trying to find the usage patterns for this thing... this is such a leap from what we were doing before that I basically have no idea what I'm looking for.  Is it one loop per day?  per 2 days? 3? 5? 7? Or maybe more than one per day?  I have a lot of modeling to do on that point alone.  This is the biggest step up in complexity, potential power and advancement I have ever made in a single move.  So that may take some time too.

But it will be worth the wait.  Remember, it's not taking so long just because the models are not fully stable.  It's taking this long because we are basically re-writing the "how to make this" handbook from scratch.  That's how big the difference is between 5.75.6G and 5.75.7G is.  Bear with me.  I can't afford to make mistakes with this.

I get you, thanks for the update!

I guess it's kinda like measuring the difference in a slingshot and a nuclear missile, lol. There's such a gap, and lack of references to build out, it's tough to truly accurately conceptualise.

Surprising to hear you say that it's the biggest step up in a single move you've ever done. Then I remembered AOL, the first 5.75.7G, was only at "5.5%" I think you said of 5.75.7G's power range. And you said OF needs a lot more to get the job done, curious where it'll fall in the range in the end. So then it makes sense about how big of a leap this program will be, recalling that about AOL. Fantastic to hear. Really looking forward to it, it seems like it'll be a winner.

Congrats to all pre-sales who got it for a good deal! A sale on new tech is unheard of, hope you all enjoy!

[Shannon]

I believe he said 3 days to 3 weeks. Somewhere in between that time.

Basically we will know when I get the config settings finished, and that depends on how cooperative the models are.  That's why I gave a range of time.

I was also wondering how things in general with the sub were progressing and where development is at as well. Hope things are going good. And that you are too!

I'm doing alright.  Been generally in need of a surprising amount of rest since I stopped developing the script.  That took a bigger amount of energy than I realized, and it unexpectedly overtook and overwhelmed me.  I may have been a bit too zealous in my efforts to do that.

The sub is currently making progress on configuration of the FRM component.  I have it down to two options, and now I need to find which one is the overall best option.  That should be done today, with any luck.

Then I need to determine the value of five other configuration variables, which represents an unkown amount of time.  If the models cooperate... maybe 2-3 days.  If not... ?

Once that is done, building the resulting mostrosity of complexity will probably require a few more days.

I am not looking forward to trying to find the usage patterns for this thing... this is such a leap from what we were doing before that I basically have no idea what I'm looking for.  Is it one loop per day?  per 2 days? 3? 5? 7? Or maybe more than one per day?  I have a lot of modeling to do on that point alone.  This is the biggest step up in complexity, potential power and advancement I have ever made in a single move.  So that may take some time too.

But it will be worth the wait.  Remember, it's not taking so long just because the models are not fully stable.  It's taking this long because we are basically re-writing the "how to make this" handbook from scratch.  That's how big the difference is between 5.75.6G and 5.75.7G is.  Bear with me.  I can't afford to make mistakes with this.

I get you, thanks for the update!

I guess it's kinda like measuring the difference in a slingshot and a nuclear missile, lol. Thee's such a gap, and lack of references to build out, it's tough to truly accurately conceptualise.

Surprising to hear you say that it's the biggest step up in a single move you've ever done. Then I remembered AOL, the first 5.75.7G, was only at "5.5%" I think you said of 5.75.7G's power range. And you said OF needs a lot more to get the job done, curious where it'll fall in the range in the end. So then it makes sense about how big of a leap this program will be, recalling that about AOL. Fantastic to hear. Really looking forward to it, it seems like it'll be a winner.

Congrats to all pre-sales who got it for a good deal! A sale on new tech is unheard of, hope you all enjoy!

I don't know how this (full powered 5.75.7G) will end up comparing to 5.75.6G because I don't know how much this variable that has been vastly expanded actually correlates to "power".  It's the closest thing I can correlate it to.  So please refrain from creating expectations.  We really don't know how to classify this just yet, and that means we don't yet fully understand how much more powerful it will actually be.  If this variable does strongly correlate to power, it's going to be quite an eye opening experience.  If not, well, we'll have to see what happens.  So trying to compare a slingshot to a nuclear missile is a bit much.  More accurately, 5.75.6G has ~1% of the potential of 5.75.7G for this variable.  So AOL would be about 5.5x more powerful if it correlates to power.  And OFv3 seems to be likely to be significantly more than that.  I'm still nailing down the specifics.

Please remember, that was not a sale or a discount. It was the key to getting enough sales to generate enough momentum to achieve something much better than we would have achieved otherwise. It was a "low introductory trate on a pre-order". And it's almost certainly not ever going to happen again, given the rarity of the specifics that resulted in that choice of actions.

[DarthXedonias]

Just wanted to say Shannon whatever you are doing now might be a really big step up as I'm getting crazy TID I haven't experience before to the point it is happening in Phases. I actually wrote it down so will just paste it here but yeah I've never experienced anything like this before from any sub of any generation earlier than this.

What I wrote:

"Its really hard to describe as I've never had TID like this before that is affecting me on all sorts of levels. The first couple of days was more like this feeling that I was on the precipice of something, of some kind of break thru but wasn't quite there yet. As if this breakthru was for some future event. It was weird because I would try to focus in on this feeling of a breakthru and get some idea what it would be like. I couldn't though because I got this feeling or thought that would come back that "I can't fully understand or comprehend this" at least as I am now. It makes me think the potential for change is so drastic that it confuses my present self and I can't comprehend it. As if this was some major paradigm shift. There then seemed to be some 2nd phase to this TID where I found stuff seemed to touch me a lot more emotionally and I would find myself either on the edge of tears or crying. This is totally different from how I was before. Before all these changes in my life I would probably only cry like once a year if that. I've now cried more in a week than I usually do in a year. I guess this might be a release of some kind ahead of actually playing the sub. It seems to happen around stuff that is encouraging or highly positive that tries to encourage me to do better in life.

Now I seem to be going through a third phase. This is a phase I have been familiar with but not when TID happens but when I'm actually running a sub. Its like my brain works over time to the point that I have certain philosophical breakthrus that end up changing the whole paradigm of life for me. These breakthrus literally change my perception on my life usually. This means for me that the new tech and FRM working in tandem seems to be a lot more powerful. Usually for TID, in generation of subs before 5.75.7G, I get what I described in phase 1 and then when actually running the sub get stuff in phase 3. Now I'm getting for TID stuff that I would associate with actually running a sub before , phae 3, and this new emotional release stuff that has never really happened before (phase 2).

The only thing I can think of for why stuff I mentioned in phase 2 showing up is that some deeper layer of my subconscious that either hasn't been touched by the subs yet or has been able to easily resist previous generations of subs is now being affected. That's the most possible and logical explanation I have to why I'm now experience these phase 2 affects. Don't know how close we are to release but I think these might be the extend of the TID affects unless there might be a phase 4 of affects I start feeling but I doubt it. "

[ncbeareatingman]

Just wanted to say Shannon whatever you are doing now might be a really big step up as I'm getting crazy TID I haven't experience before to the point it is happening in Phases. I actually wrote it down so will just paste it here but yeah I've never experienced anything like this before from any sub of any generation earlier than this.  

What I wrote:

"Its really hard to describe as I've never had TID like this before that is affecting me on all sorts of levels. The first couple of days was more like this feeling that I was on the precipice of something, of some kind of break thru but wasn't quite there yet. As if this breakthru was for some future event. It was weird because I would try to focus in on this feeling of a breakthru and get some idea what it would be like. I couldn't though because I got this feeling or thought that would come back that "I can't fully understand or comprehend this" at least as I am now. It makes me think the potential for change is so drastic that it confuses my present self and I can't comprehend it. As if this was some major paradigm shift. There then seemed to be some 2nd phase to this TID where I found stuff seemed to touch me a lot more emotionally and I would find myself either on the edge of tears or crying. This is totally different from how I was before. Before all these changes in my life I would probably only cry like once a year if that. I've now cried more in a week than I usually do in a year. I guess this might be a release of some kind ahead of actually playing the sub. It seems to happen around stuff that is encouraging or highly positive that tries to encourage me to do better in life.

Now I seem to be going through a third phase. This is a phase I have been familiar with but not when TID happens but when I'm actually running  a sub. Its like my brain works over time to the point that I have certain philosophical breakthrus that end up changing the whole paradigm of life for me. These breakthrus literally change my perception on my life usually. This means for me that the new tech and FRM working in tandem seems to be a lot more powerful. Usually for TID, in generation of subs before 5.75.7G, I get what I described in phase 1 and then when actually running the sub get stuff in phase 3. Now I'm getting for TID stuff that I would associate with actually running a sub before , phae 3, and this new emotional release stuff that has never really happened before (phase 2).

The only thing I can think of for why stuff I mentioned in phase 2 showing up is that some deeper layer of my subconscious that either hasn't been touched by the subs yet or has been able to easily resist previous generations of subs is now being affected. That's the most possible and logical explanation I have to why I'm now experience these phase 2 affects. Don't know how close we are to release but I think these might be the extend of the TID affects unless there might be a phase 4 of affects I start feeling but I doubt it. "

 To say that this is 'awesome' just DOES NOT do this justice. wow what an amazing,astounding phenomina,to say da least DarthXedonias....."Obi-won,has taught you well,Skywalker!!" though I am awaitng UMSv2,I swear to you Im sooo inclined to purchase( pre purchase) OFv3. dang. your experiences truly are phenominal. 

thank you for having the  willingness and courage to share. Laughin and Crying are the same release!! Peace,Man.

PS: THe next morning; One consulation is that UMSv2 will have an even deeper version of FRM 5.0 & DRS in it as well. super thnkful for that!! Plus a seemingly jillion other bells and whistles to go in the mix ,as well. Ever Higher,Man.

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid244595

One variable left to configure (DRS) before I can start building. This has been like pulling teeth from a chicken, but it's getting done. I'm hopeful I can finish configuring the DRS before the end of today.

Thank you all for your patience with me during this laborious and unexpectedly slow and challenging process.

[Benjamin]

Can anyone tell me how long a loop of SDM is? Thanks.

[Darkness]

Can anyone tell me how long a loop of SDM is? Thanks.

25 minutes

[AbundanceCH]

Shannon, i'm sure you've heard how we all have a wealth thermometer. Basically a subconscious limit to how much money we can achieve and retain and how our subconscious mind will do everything in its power to keep us at that level.

Does UMS already deal with this issue? I'm also wondering if it deals with our savings thermometer. I keep having issues when it comes to savings. I'll get to a certain amount and then "life" will find ways for me to spend it all. Whether it be due to having to pay to fix things or whatever expenses that come up which make me end up having to use up my savings and start from scratch.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon, i'm sure you've heard how we all have a wealth thermometer.  Basically a subconscious limit to how much money we can achieve and retain and how our subconscious mind will do everything in its power to keep us at that level.

Does UMS already deal with this issue? I'm also wondering if it deals with our savings thermometer.  I keep having issues when it comes to savings.  I'll get to a certain amount and then "life" will find ways for me to spend it all.  Whether it be due to having to pay to fix things or whatever expenses that come up which make me end up having to use up my savings and start from scratch.

Dang Man.... most excellent questions. I'd love to see,Shannon's responses to this as well. I can so relate to what all you shared as well AbundanceCH !!

[Raz]

Can anyone tell me how long a loop of SDM is? Thanks.

25 minutes

More like 1 hour 36 minutes.

[AriGold]

Shannon, i'm sure you've heard how we all have a wealth thermometer.  Basically a subconscious limit to how much money we can achieve and retain and how our subconscious mind will do everything in its power to keep us at that level.

Does UMS already deal with this issue? I'm also wondering if it deals with our savings thermometer.  I keep having issues when it comes to savings.  I'll get to a certain amount and then "life" will find ways for me to spend it all.  Whether it be due to having to pay to fix things or whatever expenses that come up which make me end up having to use up my savings and start from scratch.

I think there was something in there called "wealth ceiling destruction", so that there is no upper limit.
What you mean is not a thermometer but a thermostat that keeps the room at a certain temperature, not just measuring it. I had the same thing with my money, I would earn more, save more and from somewhere there was unexpected cost coming to keep me at that level.
But I would also like to have an answer from Shannon if that is taken care of.
I would also like the stages of UMS something like "prepare for building the next level of wealth" (1st stage), then "build the next level of wealth" (2nd stage) and then "finish up and secure that level of wealth" (3rd stage). For the next level of wealth start again with 1st stage. It will not be easy to go from 100 on your bank account to 1 million. but in steps it will be possible for the mind to accept and ask for the next higher "wealth level" to achieve, so from 100 on the bank account to 1,000, then to 5,000 or 10,000, then 50,000...

[Shannon]

Shannon, i'm sure you've heard how we all have a wealth thermometer.  Basically a subconscious limit to how much money we can achieve and retain and how our subconscious mind will do everything in its power to keep us at that level.

Does UMS already deal with this issue? I'm also wondering if it deals with our savings thermometer.  I keep having issues when it comes to savings.  I'll get to a certain amount and then "life" will find ways for me to spend it all.  Whether it be due to having to pay to fix things or whatever expenses that come up which make me end up having to use up my savings and start from scratch.

I think there was something in there called "wealth ceiling destruction", so that there is no upper limit.
What you mean is not a thermometer but a thermostat that keeps the room at a certain temperature, not just measuring it. I had the same thing with my money, I would earn more, save more and from somewhere there was unexpected cost coming to keep me at that level.
But I would also like to have an answer from Shannon if that is taken care of.
I would also like the stages of UMS something like "prepare for building the next level of wealth" (1st stage), then "build the next level of wealth" (2nd stage) and then "finish up and secure that level of wealth" (3rd stage). For the next level of wealth start again with 1st stage. It will not be easy to go from 100 on your bank account to 1 million. but in steps it will be possible for the mind to accept and ask for the next higher "wealth level" to achieve, so from 100 on the bank account to 1,000, then to 5,000 or 10,000, then 50,000...

UMS has something to prevent you from being limited by a "wealth ceiling".  What AriGold describes is pretty much how it's structured.