Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Since something like FRM has literally never been done before... I can't say yet. But I believe it will, yes.


I don't believe there is just one "level of resistance". It's not "resistant or not". It's a spectrum. The more resistant someone is, the more fearful they will be (in some way, at some level), and the longer it will naturally take to remove their fears. I think FRM v3.x should take 3+ months. I think 4.x should take less time. I don't have enough actual evidence to know, and I haven't modeled it.


So you're going for the "more is better" approach, which is likely why you aren't seeing results. Too much is just as bad as too little, just for different reasons.

Calibrate the volume such that you can only faintly hear the lowest levels of ocean surf, and the highest points are comfortably loud. That is your maximum volume. Try that for a week and see what happens. If you don't start seeing more results, then take it down one notch each cycle until you do.

Thanks shannon, i will try changing the volume on vlc media player on the next cycle, tonight is the last night of trickling stream hybrid and will drop vlc media player volume to 75%. After the 2 day break will move onto ocean surf hybrid and will try between 50 and 75% and see if the lower volumes will work better for me.

Just seeing that 12 of 15 volume is recommended and others having volume up loud is why i had been doing it that way but will decrease volume for the cycles from now on and see how it goes.

Would 10% decrease be equal to one notch on a phone?

A volume of 12 is recommended for Jake. Not for everyone. There is a high correlation between a volume of 10-12-13-14-15 for Beast, but I haven't tested DMSI, etc. I am recommending 12/15 to Jake because it is known across several different programs (Beast, MIR, ARA, USLM, SE, DNWS, GPR) to be the sweet spot for execution from resistant personalities when you are using a cell phone.

You will have to use a volume meter to know what the equivalent volume is for VLC, and you have to take into account volume at the source (speaker) and distance from speaker to ear. Even that isn't perfect because some phones have speakers positioned at different distances from their microphones, which may translate into a different volume than 12.

Interesting! How does that translate for iPhone users with no volume indication?

Shannon,

Would you mind replying to this post. Thanks!

I already did.

[Shannon]

Shannon can you explain a little bit how important non masturbation is on dmsi and why, how it helps the end goal etc?

Masturbation is the release of sexual energy, among other things. That sexual energy is both a form and source of energy, and a form and source of motivation to achieve sex.

When you have a lot of that sexual energy, you are motivated to do something about it. The goal is to use that energy to make yourself more sexually attractive. The way to defeat that goal is to jerk off.

DMSI is not designed to prevent you from socializing or approaching if you want to. It is designed to maximize how sexually attractive you are, and part of how it does that is by causing you to generate more sexual energy, so that there is more SEX in your aura with which to affect those around you.

The more sexual energy you have, the more sexually attractive and arousing you become, even without the help of DMSI. DMSI uses that sexual energy to achieve it's goals.

Masturbating interrupts that.

I agree! But what about masturbating without jerking off? The old Taoists and Tantrists equally have ways to pull that energy through the chakras while keeping the juice in the body. They believe everytime you ejaculate you waste some of your life energy.

Shannon,

That one was aimed at you as well. ;-)

And it too was responded to.

[Shannon]

My question is even with all this high tec anti fear mods healing and clearing and still we can't execute. Where is all this fear coming from and how it'd get so strong that even with the best subs in the world it still having a time at taming it?

When I started DMSI (with 3.1 I believe), I did execute very fast and very powerfully. I got my ideal friend with benefits within 2 weeks from starting using DMSI.

Then some shit that did scared the hell out of me did happen.

And from that point, I think that I resisted DMSI.

For me, I had to consciously choose to execute. I saw a girl. I said in my mind. I want to have this girl and it did happen by magic easily.

Again for me, the prerequisite to execute is to want consciously to execute, have faith that it will happen and when I do that, it does.

I'm a bit surprised to have never seen any mention of that book in this forum but what I just said is pretty much what you can find in Psycho-cybernetics from Maxwell Maltz...

What you are describing has nothing to do with what DMSI is trying to achieve. You made a conscious decision, as you state, to meet that girl - and it worked. What Maltz is describing is similar to the LOA philosophy of the community that manifests a certain goal or person into their lives. You manifest consciously to influence the unconscious. DMSI works differently, as Shannon explained many times, without the need of the conscious effort.

With you consciously deciding to meet that girl you probably overrule possible resistance from the unconscious. That's why you see resistance when leaving the unconscious to do its magic while not interfering with your consciousness. Hence, the fears obviously need to be removed in order to not resist and execute properly.

The interesting question for me remains which one is more effective - and/or is energy-wise healthier for us. Shannon's take is that conscious manifestation of specific people or outcomes might take away the free will of the targeted people involved.

DMSI does not attempt to make everything happen just by using the subconscious. It also recruits the conscious mind, since the conscious will can, at least for short periods of time, bend the will of the subconscious.

That has been the case forever. It does not matter. We still have to find the key to removing fear without triggering it. The moment we trigger it, it finds a way to stay alive and fight.

[wolverine_i_am]

My question is even with all this high tec anti fear mods healing and clearing and still we can't execute. Where is all this fear coming from and how it'd get so strong that even with the best subs in the world it still having a time at taming it?

It's relatively simple. When the subconscious fears something, the fear grows proportionate to how close that thing is to being experienced. It is how the subconscious thinks it is keeping itself "safe".

The problem is, the more powerful we go, the more likely the experience is, the more fear it generates, and the more nothing happens. Which is why I started with H&C and have moved on to FRM. We have to kill that fear. The situation now is about like holding a dragster back while it is at full blast throttle, using a rubber band. As long as that band holds, the car appears to be doing nothing even with the throttle open and the tires spinning and smoking. When it finally breaks, that car will jump like a bat out of hell to it's goal.

The final challenge is to figure out how to turn off fear without triggering it. And I am going to find the last key when the time is right, but at the moment, it apparently is not. Timing is everything, so they tell me.

What we are attempting to do here by removing the fear has never in the history of mankind been done successfully. So bear with me. It's not the easiest thing to do.

I can attest to this. The closer I feel I'm getting, I can feel more fear rising. Fears I never realised I had.

[lano1106]

My question is even with all this high tec anti fear mods healing and clearing and still we can't execute. Where is all this fear coming from and how it'd get so strong that even with the best subs in the world it still having a time at taming it?

When I started DMSI (with 3.1 I believe), I did execute very fast and very powerfully. I got my ideal friend with benefits within 2 weeks from starting using DMSI.

Then some shit that did scared the hell out of me did happen.

And from that point, I think that I resisted DMSI.

For me, I had to consciously choose to execute. I saw a girl. I said in my mind. I want to have this girl and it did happen by magic easily.

Again for me, the prerequisite to execute is to want consciously to execute, have faith that it will happen and when I do that, it does.

I'm a bit surprised to have never seen any mention of that book in this forum but what I just said is pretty much what you can find in Psycho-cybernetics from Maxwell Maltz...

What you are describing has nothing to do with what DMSI is trying to achieve. You made a conscious decision, as you state, to meet that girl - and it worked. What Maltz is describing is similar to the LOA philosophy of the community that manifests a certain goal or person into their lives. You manifest consciously to influence the unconscious. DMSI works differently, as Shannon explained many times, without the need of the conscious effort.

With you consciously deciding to meet that girl you probably overrule possible resistance from the unconscious. That's why you see resistance when leaving the unconscious to do its magic while not interfering with your consciousness. Hence, the fears obviously need to be removed in order to not resist and execute properly.

The interesting question for me remains which one is more effective - and/or is energy-wise healthier for us. Shannon's take is that conscious manifestation of specific people or outcomes might take away the free will of the targeted people involved.

We could argue that I did not used DMSI as intended but to me, it did really appear to be like magic.

I was in a wedding, I spotted the girl that I wanted to have and I ended up being sit on the same table out of 25-30 tables having each 10 places, on the chair right beside her where places where assigned many days before.

and she ended chasing me on FB a week later telling me that she couldn't stop thinking having sex with me since I met her at the wedding because of the way that I did look at her. (I really don't recall having looked at her any differently that I look people in general...)

Ok, maybe there is a rational explanation to all this... but if this isn't reality bending and DMSI action, idk what it is.

FYI, having women masturbating several times per day while thinking having sex with me isn't the typical reaction that I usually have.

So yeah, for me, having a conscious intent of possessing sexually a woman appears to be the way for me to execute...

[dweller94]

I've identified a block that runs deeper than fear well for me anyway, my lack of success is to do with the fact that women reduce my overall happiness. I've noticed that if anything remotely threatens my peace of mind, like when you're in a relationship or dating you start thinking about stuff and it can destroy you depending on your attachment, DMSI so far doesn't seem to have helped get rid of this but I've identified the block, it's simple girls make me unhappy, whether it's because I'm overthinking shit or I'm trying to see if there's more. If only I genuinely was care free and women wouldn't bring me down my life would be great and full of them, this is why DMSI isn't doing its thing for me (design goal) it's working alright but don't want to say much rn.

[racktree]

@Shannon I might be complicating things but come from confusion on reading lots for years from various authors :|
I will start US/LM v3 soon. I have read on the forums and on the description that I can set up to three conscious goals which the program will help me achieve.

You are advising us to then write them down, and keep them in mind when making decisions in the day.

My questions
1. Is writing them down something like writing them down once or twice a day in the style of "I now have an athletic body". Just taking 5-10 seconds to do so is enough?
2. I have many goals. I read that you mentioned the fewer the better. I have a goal that is big. What I am trying to say by big is that someone can easily break it down to 5-8 smaller goals. Goals like 1. Having an athletic body, 2. restore health in body mind and spirit, 3. Gain social skills, 4. High self-esteem, confidence, self-worth, 5. etc etc. Or someone else can just say my goal is to "achieve the highest SMV possible for myself" which includes all these and many more. Would it be sufficient to just say that and have this single goal for the program?

[Shannon]

I've identified a block that runs deeper than fear well for me anyway, my lack of success is to do with the fact that women reduce my overall happiness. I've noticed that if anything remotely threatens my peace of mind, like when you're in a relationship or dating you start thinking about stuff and it can destroy you depending on your attachment, DMSI so far doesn't seem to have helped get rid of this but I've identified the block, it's simple hoes make me unhappy, whether it's because I'm overthinking shit or I'm trying to see if there's more. If only I genuinely was care free and women wouldn't bring me down my life would be great and full of them, this is why DMSI isn't doing its thing for me (design goal) it's working alright but don't want to say much rn.

Point 1. This is not something that runs deeper than fear. It is fear. You fear that "women will reduce my overall happiness".

Point 2. Identifying that block is part of FRM working on that fear.

Point 3. All females != "hoes". If "hoes" bring you down then find a woman worth having, or at least having sex with.

Based on what you're saying here, you have concluded that "all women are hoes who will make me unhappy", which is definitely a false belief based in faulty logic, which generates FEAR.

And by getting you to the point that you were able to identify that FEAR consciously, FRM IS doing it's thing. Keep going.

[swisston]

Sounds like a great choice to just keep releasing FRM versions inside DMSI to monitor its effectiveness.

[Shadow2200]

Awesome news shannon. Totally agree version c is waste of time all efforts in the anti-fear mod

[KingDavid93]

Shannon,

I thought you had mentioned a couple of times already that we are at FRM V4.3- but now you’re saying it is 4.2

[Shannon]

@Shannon I might be complicating things but come from confusion on reading lots for years from various authors :|
I will start US/LM v3 soon. I have read on the forums and on the description that I can set up to three conscious goals which the program will help me achieve.

You are advising us to then write them down, and keep them in mind when making decisions in the day.

My questions
1. Is writing them down something like writing them down once or twice a day in the style of "I now have an athletic body". Just taking 5-10 seconds to do so is enough?

You can write them down once, or once a day or once an hour or once every 30 seconds. Well, that might interfere with actually accomplishing them. But you want them in the format of, "My goal is ..." It doesn't matter how much time you spend doing it, as long as you write them down and they are clearly defined and worded.

2. I have many goals. I read that you mentioned the fewer the better. I have a goal that is big. What I am trying to say by big is that someone can easily break it down to 5-8 smaller goals. Goals like 1. Having an athletic body, 2. restore health in body mind and spirit, 3. Gain social skills, 4. High self-esteem, confidence, self-worth, 5. etc etc. Or someone else can just say my goal is to "achieve the highest SMV possible for myself" which includes all these and many more. Would it be sufficient to just say that and have this single goal for the program?

Make your first goal your biggest most overarching goal.

Make your second goal the single most important sub-goal of the first goal that will result in achieving your major goal.

Make your third goal the single most important sub-goal of the second goal that will result in achieving your major goal.

This way, progress on any results in progress on all.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

I thought you had mentioned a couple of times already that we are at FRM V4.3- but now you’re saying it is 4.2

I am sick and still waking up. It is 4.3.

[THolt]

@Shannon I might be complicating things but come from confusion on reading lots for years from various authors :|
I will start US/LM v3 soon. I have read on the forums and on the description that I can set up to three conscious goals which the program will help me achieve.

You are advising us to then write them down, and keep them in mind when making decisions in the day.

My questions
1. Is writing them down something like writing them down once or twice a day in the style of "I now have an athletic body". Just taking 5-10 seconds to do so is enough?
2. I have many goals. I read that you mentioned the fewer the better. I have a goal that is big. What I am trying to say by big is that someone can easily break it down to 5-8 smaller goals. Goals like 1. Having an athletic body, 2. restore health in body mind and spirit, 3. Gain social skills, 4. High self-esteem, confidence, self-worth, 5. etc etc. Or someone else can just say my goal is to "achieve the highest SMV possible for myself" which includes all these and many more. Would it be sufficient to just say that and have this single goal for the program?

My primary goal is to establish deep and close friendships with people my age group.
The second primary subgoal to establish that is to be more outgoing with people
I am still deciding on what the third one will be but you get the idea I hope.