Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[SargeMaximus]

If I was to focus on it, it might very well be. But why would altering your genes make sense in DMSI? That is what we have to figure out before I start creating subs that are directly trying to achieve genetic manipulation. There has to be a very, VERY good reason to go that low level, and a very clearly defined and very specific goal to achieve.

Why would it not? Isn’t DMSI about sex? And isn’t sex basically about passing on good genes?

Altering your genes has to have one or more specific goals. What are these goals you think DMSI needs to alter genes to achieve?

Well first I guess we'd have to define what genes women (the human species?) want, and then proceed to alter our own to be that. It may be a can of worms and I don't even know if it's possible but, theoretically, if genes are what women are searching for, then making the genes "right" would solve every single problem.

It's an exciting prospect but again, I don't know where to begin or how possible it is.

Altering one's genes is completely unnecessary to achieve the goals of DMSI, as long as you are fully executing it, as far as I can tell. You can alter the perception of the affected much more safely, easily and effectively instead.

Fair enough.

[DarthXedonias]

I am currently in the process of building Beast 17. This is the first day of the build process. The last time I built Beast, it took me 3 days. This time, because of a more complex script and various other factors, it will probably take me at least 4. But it's happening.

Glad to see this is happening. Just hope Key #2 and the fear removal module show very promising results. If so then hopefully we will see a lot more people executing on 3.3. I do hope you keep us updated on how the testing goes. Not to create hype or anything but to know how Key#2 and the fear removal module are doing would be interesting.

[Omni3]

Hey Shannon, I'd just like to throw out a reassurance, I guess, re your recent breakup and try not to focus too much on it. You probably already know the rational thoughts around it and your using E2 as your primary positive motivator at this time seems to support that, just don't let yourself completely discount the irrational, emotional side of it. 4.5 years is definitely a good chunk of time to spend with someone and it's certainly natural for it to be considered akin to a loss, whether the breakup is mutual or not, so I guess make sure the emotional parts of you have some sort of reassurance that things will be ok.

You seem to know what you're doing re H&C and I don't expect any advice or suggestions I could give to be something you haven't heard before, just know that even if it's people you haven't met in person you have a potential support system if you need it.

@Shannon
I second this

[Oversoul]

Would the celebrity effect make someone associate every celebrity they like with you, or see/feel like you are the celebrity they like? Does this also extend to social media crushes?

[Shannon]

Would the celebrity effect make someone associate every celebrity they like with you, or see/feel like you are the celebrity they like? Does this also extend to social media crushes?

It gives you the status and social effect of being a celebrity. Not a particular person... just a celebrity.

[racktree]

Hi @Shannon

I have a question about AM which it possibly applies to other programs but the experience I have is with AM.

Me and a friend run AM6 once. When we finished with it we noticed in the following months that the program was "activating" when needed. Or we might were being triggered and the program was "activating" . Meaning, if we were in need to take care of ourselves or need ot be alpha in a situation it was like the program was "activating" on the background, we acted the way we should and then we were back to normal.

I understand that this activation we talk about might be just us associating this new to us behavior with what I describe above but the bottom line is that we were feeling that when this activation was taking place we were a different person, thinking in a different way than a day or two ago.

I would be glad if you can share more on this.

[Nox]

Not sure time frame on 3.3, but I've been on a break and am staying on one until its release and past few days celebrity effect has been activating quite strongly

So TID from ow until whenever its released.

[THolt]

Not sure time frame on 3.3, but I've been on a break and am staying on one until its release and past few days celebrity effect has been activating quite strongly

So TID from ow until whenever its released.

What were the specific experiences you had with the celebrity effect?

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon

I have a question about AM which it possibly applies to other programs but the experience I have is with AM.

Me and a friend run AM6 once. When we finished with it we noticed in the following months that the program was "activating" when needed. Or we might were being triggered and the program was "activating" . Meaning, if we were in need to take care of ourselves or need ot be alpha in a situation it was like the program was "activating" on the background, we acted the way we should and then we were back to normal.

I understand that this activation we talk about might be just us associating this new to us behavior with what I describe above but the bottom line is that we were feeling that when this activation was taking place we were a different person, thinking in a different way than a day or two ago.

I would be glad if you can share more on this.

What you are experiencing is a result of AM6 having achieved partial success. This indicates that you need to do another run, immediately.

It means that the changes are in place, but have not yet replaced the old ways completely.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon,2 quick questions Man..one of which I've been meaning to ask for awhile here are... does USLM have both Positive Thinking ,Positive Attitude & Self Esteem,in it as well as some H &C? or aspects there of according to the goal(s) of the program? The Positive thinking one seems obvious and in order to feel worthy or success and to allow it in I would imagine it'd have self self esteem in it also or major parts of self esteem programming such as .... appreciation,self validation,self valuing,better more positive view of the self.... it just 'makes sense" that USLM would have such included. As far as the healing & clearing,dunno. or would that simply be in Side "A"? ( 3rd questions:-)

[Fluffy]

@Shannon

What AM had the most "indifference to women, focusing on self"? Would you say AM5 had it more than AM6, because AM6 has Sex Magnet lead in?

[Shannon]

Shannon,2 quick questions Man..one of which I've been meaning to ask for awhile here are... does USLM have both Positive Thinking ,Positive Attitude & Self Esteem,in it as well as some H &C? or aspects there of according to the goal(s) of the program? The Positive thinking one seems obvious and in order to feel worthy or success and to allow it in I would imagine it'd have self self esteem in it also or major parts of self esteem programming such as .... appreciation,self validation,self valuing,better more positive view of the self.... it just 'makes sense" that USLM would have such included. As far as the healing & clearing,dunno. or would that simply be in Side "A"? ( 3rd questions:-)

There is no H&C in USLM-B. PTPA and SE are present. I was attempting to script it such that H&C was minimized and minimally necessary.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

What AM had the most "indifference to women, focusing on self"? Would you say AM5 had it more than AM6, because AM6 has Sex Magnet lead in?

AM5 had no SM lead in, but SM lead in doesn't make you focus on women per se, it makes you start becoming a sex magnet so that they focus on you.

And in spite of the opinions of some, AM6 is more powerful than AM5. Therefore it would be my conclusion that AM6 wins for what you're asking.

[Havana]

Will the Fear Removal module be also included in 3.3B?