Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Shannon, I have got here some effects that could be from DMSI TID. First at all, the aura seems so strong that it keeps user and affected awake. It's a bit too extreme. We should be able to sleep and rest. Second, you should keep implement the maturation thing also for the affected, because that's what they are doing when affected. I am on my phone now.

Edit: And of course preventing sleeping with others when affected, because others could be for example more social or so and easier to get.

TID causing an aura so powerful that it keeps you awake? That's... interesting... since we are at least a month away from 3.3 still. But I will put that in my notes.

If they are maturing when affected, are you saying it needs to stay in, or it needs enhancement?

Yes, it's strange, because I don't even wanted to run it at begin. But I don't know what else can cause it.

Regarding masturbating, they should be more willing to have sex with the user, maybe every time they masturbating realize more and more that only sex with the user can bring the relief she needs from sex.

Wouldn't that be taking away her free will? And remember, this program may be primarily in use by men to attract women right now, but what happens when it works and the news media picks it up? It's going to be in use by a lot of women, too.

Part of the reason I designed it for all genders is so that no one gender would go too far with it. What you can do to them, they can also do to you. Remember that.

Hm, I don't know if it is already taking away her free will, but maybe you can can make a variation. Like making her think how much better it would be now having sex with the user. Maybe you have a better idea. But if you think it goes too far then I understand if you just leave the part as it is.

I will also write something about the aura I noticed when I am home again from my business training.

I've got a lot of work to do on 3.3, and a lot more than I can remember. But I'm working on it.

[Shannon]

TID causing an aura so powerful that it keeps you awake? That's... interesting... since we are at least a month away from 3.3 still. But I will put that in my notes.

If they are maturing when affected, are you saying it needs to stay in, or it needs enhancement?

Yes, it's strange, because I don't even wanted to run it at begin. But I don't know what else can cause it.

Regarding masturbating, they should be more willing to have sex with the user, maybe every time they masturbating realize more and more that only sex with the user can bring the relief she needs from sex.

Wouldn't that be taking away her free will? And remember, this program may be primarily in use by men to attract women right now, but what happens when it works and the news media picks it up? It's going to be in use by a lot of women, too.

Part of the reason I designed it for all genders is so that no one gender would go too far with it. What you can do to them, they can also do to you. Remember that.

Hm, I don't know if it is already taking away her free will, but maybe you can can make a variation. Like making her think how much better it would be now having sex with the user. Maybe you have a better idea. But if you think it goes too far then I understand if you just leave the part as it is.

I will also write something about the aura I noticed when I am home again from my business training.

I think to myself that I'm far better choice than most guys out there for girls to have sex with. I have so many talents: An engineer by profession, a passionate photographer, a boxer, a runner (did two half marathons), occasional weight lifter, have knowledge on many different subjects, an avid traveler (been to 38 states in the United States and still counting), an adventurer (done bungee jumping, skydiving, paragliding, and countless more), have a good credit score, financially independent, practice mindfulness, very good with people, try to help as many as I can and thinking of opening a charity fund for my country and what not. Still I'm single with low sex value.

That is likely your problem: you have made that belief your identity, based on what other people do, and not on your own decision to be otherwise. I suggest that focusing on making yourself happy and letting the chips fall where they may with women, because you're self fulfilling and don't need them, is likely going to be a major help. I found that it did, back in the day.

[Tigerismyspirit]

Yes, it's strange, because I don't even wanted to run it at begin. But I don't know what else can cause it.

Regarding masturbating, they should be more willing to have sex with the user, maybe every time they masturbating realize more and more that only sex with the user can bring the relief she needs from sex.

Wouldn't that be taking away her free will? And remember, this program may be primarily in use by men to attract women right now, but what happens when it works and the news media picks it up? It's going to be in use by a lot of women, too.

Part of the reason I designed it for all genders is so that no one gender would go too far with it. What you can do to them, they can also do to you. Remember that.

Hm, I don't know if it is already taking away her free will, but maybe you can can make a variation. Like making her think how much better it would be now having sex with the user. Maybe you have a better idea. But if you think it goes too far then I understand if you just leave the part as it is.

I will also write something about the aura I noticed when I am home again from my business training.

I think to myself that I'm far better choice than most guys out there for girls to have sex with. I have so many talents: An engineer by profession, a passionate photographer, a boxer, a runner (did two half marathons), occasional weight lifter, have knowledge on many different subjects, an avid traveler (been to 38 states in the United States and still counting), an adventurer (done bungee jumping, skydiving, paragliding, and countless more), have a good credit score, financially independent, practice mindfulness, very good with people, try to help as many as I can and thinking of opening a charity fund for my country and what not. Still I'm single with low sex value.

That is likely your problem: you have made that belief your identity, based on what other people do, and not on your own decision to be otherwise. I suggest that focusing on making yourself happy and letting the chips fall where they may with women, because you're self fulfilling and don't need them, is likely going to be a major help. I found that it did, back in the day.

I've had this thought a few times on DMSI. I thought it was like a IDGAF mindset to not execute the goal.

[thor2014]

TID causing an aura so powerful that it keeps you awake? That's... interesting... since we are at least a month away from 3.3 still. But I will put that in my notes.

If they are maturing when affected, are you saying it needs to stay in, or it needs enhancement?

Yes, it's strange, because I don't even wanted to run it at begin. But I don't know what else can cause it.

Regarding masturbating, they should be more willing to have sex with the user, maybe every time they masturbating realize more and more that only sex with the user can bring the relief she needs from sex.

Wouldn't that be taking away her free will? And remember, this program may be primarily in use by men to attract women right now, but what happens when it works and the news media picks it up? It's going to be in use by a lot of women, too.

Part of the reason I designed it for all genders is so that no one gender would go too far with it. What you can do to them, they can also do to you. Remember that.

Hm, I don't know if it is already taking away her free will, but maybe you can can make a variation. Like making her think how much better it would be now having sex with the user. Maybe you have a better idea. But if you think it goes too far then I understand if you just leave the part as it is.

I will also write something about the aura I noticed when I am home again from my business training.

I think to myself that I'm far better choice than most guys out there for girls to have sex with. I have so many talents: An engineer by profession, a passionate photographer, a boxer, a runner (did two half marathons), occasional weight lifter, have knowledge on many different subjects, an avid traveler (been to 38 states in the United States and still counting), an adventurer (done bungee jumping, skydiving, paragliding, and countless more), have a good credit score, financially independent, practice mindfulness, very good with people, try to help as many as I can and thinking of opening a charity fund for my country and what not. Still I'm single with low sex value.

I can see you are obviously a well rounded man with many life experiences. What I would suggest if not already done so. Hire a fashion consultant to give you a fashion makeover, pay for some grooming especially facial grooming. I found this goes along way to getting that initial window of interest from a woman. Once you have her hooked you can talk about your life experiences from an authoritive point of view.

[SargeMaximus]

I always thought that trying to impress a girl was DLV. Or am I missing something? (Serious question Ben don’t ban me)

[Tigerismyspirit]

Yes, it's strange, because I don't even wanted to run it at begin. But I don't know what else can cause it.

Regarding masturbating, they should be more willing to have sex with the user, maybe every time they masturbating realize more and more that only sex with the user can bring the relief she needs from sex.

Wouldn't that be taking away her free will? And remember, this program may be primarily in use by men to attract women right now, but what happens when it works and the news media picks it up? It's going to be in use by a lot of women, too.

Part of the reason I designed it for all genders is so that no one gender would go too far with it. What you can do to them, they can also do to you. Remember that.

Hm, I don't know if it is already taking away her free will, but maybe you can can make a variation. Like making her think how much better it would be now having sex with the user. Maybe you have a better idea. But if you think it goes too far then I understand if you just leave the part as it is.

I will also write something about the aura I noticed when I am home again from my business training.

I think to myself that I'm far better choice than most guys out there for girls to have sex with. I have so many talents: An engineer by profession, a passionate photographer, a boxer, a runner (did two half marathons), occasional weight lifter, have knowledge on many different subjects, an avid traveler (been to 38 states in the United States and still counting), an adventurer (done bungee jumping, skydiving, paragliding, and countless more), have a good credit score, financially independent, practice mindfulness, very good with people, try to help as many as I can and thinking of opening a charity fund for my country and what not. Still I'm single with low sex value.

I can see you are obviously a well rounded man with many life experiences. What I would suggest if not already done so. Hire a fashion consultant to give you a fashion makeover, pay for some grooming especially facial grooming. I found this goes along way to getting that initial window of interest from a woman. Once you have her hooked you can talk about your life experiences from an authoritive point of view.

Funny you said that. I was checking out that option last month and I was on DMSI.

[AlphaRomeo]

I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

[Tigerismyspirit]

I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

Thanks AlphaRomeo. I used to have this limiting belief but getting into PUA and seeing positive results with taller girls completely destroyed it for good a long time ago. When I would see a girl on tinder or bumble asking for a guy taller than her, I would say, "You'll get your panty soaked by my charm." I had a line for the girls who were taller in size when I was a PUA. "If we dated, I'd never look down on you. You know that, right?"

[thor2014]

I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

The majority of women prefer a man that is taller then themselves. Especially in the Balkans where it appears to be an accepted norm.

Place 10 tall women in room and ask a shorter guy to chat them all up. Introduce a tall guy into the room who is taller then any of the women. My bets are that the majority of the women would opt for dating the taller guy. There might be a few women who might opt to date the shorter guy. Lets assume that the tall and short guy are of equal looks and charisma.

The solution is to find a girl who is shorter then you too date.

[lano1106]

I'm bald but not ugly. And I'm 5'7''. I used to be really fat though.

So you are at the same situation as me heightwise.

I'm almost an inch taller yet I feel you, it's hard to attrack opposite sex at this height. Not impossible sure but you need to compensate in other aspect.

Physical attraction plays a huge role in seduction.

I am the same height as you guys. The funny thing is that I don't see that as a problem at all.

Personally, I did make out with much taller women than me (like 6 foot). It is doable but IMHO, it is not that fun.

I prefer women that are shorter smaller than me. It allows me to lift them and move them around easily. Something that isn't possible with much bigger/taller women.

And I have no problem at all finding plenty of attractive women that are shorter than me.

So IMHO, being 5'7 tall is an handicap in the dating scene is a fabricated limiting belief

Try to eliminate it...

[NoLimit]

I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

The majority of women prefer a man that is taller then themselves. Especially in the Balkans where it appears to be an accepted norm.

Place 10 tall women in room and ask a shorter guy to chat them all up. Introduce a tall guy into the room who is taller then any of the women. My bets are that the majority of the women would opt for dating the taller guy. There might be a few women who might opt to date the shorter guy. Lets assume that the tall and short guy are of equal looks and charisma.

The solution is to find a girl who is shorter then you too date.

I'm French AlphaRomeo.
To ask this question I guess you are on the positive side of the height spectrum or at least taller than average so you never had to face discrimination.

I admit it's less a problem in France than in other countries, but still Thor is saying right.

I too often see tall guys with meh face and personnalities going out with hotties and the only way they are pulling this is because they are 6 foots.

It instantly gives presence and people automatically associate a tons of positives qualities with tall people.

Take a small personn and give him 3 inches and he will do better in life in every aspect, money, hapiness, dating, works. There are a lot of studies about this to confirm.

Edit : + I don't know where you live but 5'7 is not average it is on the short side, 5'9 is average and I would probably not complain at this height.

And girls don't want guys to be taller than them, they want guys to be at least 2 inch taller, 5'10 is the neutral height where you won't hear any complaints nor positive comments for your height. Every inch below is a malus than you'll have to overcome with other aspects. (Lifestyle, Personnality, Good face, Lean body)

[AlphaRomeo]

I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

The majority of women prefer a man that is taller then themselves. Especially in the Balkans where it appears to be an accepted norm.

Place 10 tall women in room and ask a shorter guy to chat them all up. Introduce a tall guy into the room who is taller then any of the women. My bets are that the majority of the women would opt for dating the taller guy. There might be a few women who might opt to date the shorter guy. Lets assume that the tall and short guy are of equal looks.

The solution is to find a girl who is shorter then you too date.

Yes, majority of women prefer taller guy than themselves...and again, if you are average 5.7 guy then you ARE taller than majority of women.

There are always better options for some of the women than you. Unless you are best option for them all (which does not exist). Someone is always taller, richer, more handsome, more successful...whatever...and among women they have preferences as well.

You don´t have to go to room full of only tall women, unless you plan to date basket ball player. My point, is I am wondering how it is such an issue to be average weight that it´s difficult (according to some guys) to pull of hot women...since you are taller than most of them...unless you insist dating taller women than you, and even among them there are those who don´t mind your height. Anyway, thanks for the reply.

[terry44]

I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

In the UK it is 5' 10" for men. In Holland the average height is 6'. I don't think height is quite as important to women in many countries, but English women are very superficial about it. Take a look at this sad airhead female journalist in the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...Green.html

[Oversoul]

All this height talk is all good but Ive been approached by several girls (in nightclubs) on DMSI that are taller than me though. Im 5.7. Even without, they have found me attractive.

IDK you just gotta be slutty and they seem to like you. Well works for me anyway, but then again, its not an act in my case.