Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[THolt]

Have anyone feels any signs of TDI 3.3 already?

I think I have felt TID from 3.3 before only a few times but I'm not sure. I think what I'm mostly feeling right now though is TID from US/LM. I say this because over the last week or so I've been feeling this want to start my college course already online and and feel motivated to finish my degree at the 2-3 month mark instead of going at my own pace and finish at the 6 month mark instead. Like I just got off my job right now and the thought that came through my mind wasn't going home and playing video games or something. It was wishing I was already starting on my courses so I can go home and work on finishing everything up. This is kind of different for me really.

I actually had a discussion about luck with someone a few days ago.

[Jake2015]

Have anyone feels any signs of TDI 3.3 already?

Lol Good heavens dont be silly haha of course not hahaha (Im joking, sorry no offence intended).

Seriously though I was thinking about TID and well where 1 loops immediately stopped me fapping and made me execute the NO FAP ZONE lol 7 loops as done nothing obvious and has made me feel im back to being a "Stonewaller" so TID IS A DEF no unfortunately for me :/

[DarkPlouf]

I might have a BIG fear of getting hurt. Not the usual kind of fear that I imagine people experiment at one point of their life. I've probably a trauma-like, god tiers level of fear of getting hurt.

Just to set the context, I ran DMSI 3.2B 7/8 loops per day, about 4 weeks ago and the effects faded after the 3th/4th day. I decided to take a break at some point and run one loop per day only.
Well the second day after I took the break, I started feeling my "chest" tightening. You know, like when you have emotional pain. It was kinda hard to breathe too. Then the next day I was heading home and guess what the fuck happened?
The universe wanted to mess with my feels, or maybe DMSI though it was so much of a good idea to make me bump into the girl that destroyed my soul 3 years ago. She was just as fucking attractive as ever to me. In yoga pants and I swear I could even see the shape of her panties. She still had the same mimics that made me go crazy years ago. My heartbeats started to ramp up and I experienced the same thing that happened 3 years ago when she rejected me: All my energy leaving my body, legs weakening (I could barely stand), chest tightening so much that I felt like I had a giant ball in my throat. Then came the HUGE emotional pain, feeling of grief and regrets. "I wish I had never met her", "I wish I had never ever tried something with her", "I should have just made friends and nothing more than that ever", "women = PAIN".
I swear it hurt like hell and if it wasn't for a certain friend that uplifted me idk what I would have done.
I am VERY VERY VERY afraid of experimenting that pain again and I'm ready to leave EVERYTHING else just not to go through that again. :|

[cataleya]

If I switch from MLS 5.5G to US/LM how long should the break between subs be?

[Have at ye]

I might have a BIG fear of getting hurt. Not the usual kind of fear that I imagine people experiment at one point of their life. I've probably a trauma-like, god tiers level of fear of getting hurt.

Just to set the context, I ran DMSI 3.2B 7/8 loops per day, about 4 weeks ago and the effects faded after the 3th/4th day. I decided to take a break at some point and run one loop per day only.
Well the second day after I took the break, I started feeling my "chest" tightening. You know, like when you have emotional pain. It was kinda hard to breathe too. Then the next day I was heading home and guess what the **** happened?
The universe wanted to mess with my feels, or maybe DMSI though it was so much of a good idea to make me bump into the girl that destroyed my soul 3 years ago. She was just as ***** attractive as ever to me. In yoga pants and I swear I could even see the shape of her panties. She still had the same mimics that made me go crazy years ago. My heartbeats started to ramp up and I experienced the same thing that happened 3 years ago when she rejected me: All my energy leaving my body, legs weakening (I could barely stand), chest tightening so much that I felt like I had a giant ball in my throat. Then came the HUGE emotional pain, feeling of grief and regrets. "I wish I had never met her", "I wish I had never ever tried something with her", "I should have just made friends and nothing more than that ever", "women = PAIN".
I swear it hurt like hell and if it wasn't for a certain friend that uplifted me idk what I would have done.
I am VERY VERY VERY afraid of experimenting that pain again and I'm ready to leave EVERYTHING else just not to go through that again. :|

The good news is, now you know what's what.

Switch to ver. A at the soonest opportunity and let this heal.

[Griffin]

If I switch from MLS 5.5G to US/LM how long should the break between subs be?

Great question! also, should we stop running subs now if we want to play the sub as it comes out?

[Shannon]

Reality bending is designed to create a situation in which you make certain adjustments that result in the goals of the program. It's aimed not so much at magnifying the effects of the program, but the effectiveness of the program in achieving its goals. It is for the most part ASS/ART. The magnitude of "luck" is handled by something else.

@Shannon That last line caught my eye so I wanted to ask: Have you learned a lot from when you made LM 4g til now to the point where you can increase the magnitude by a lot?

I can increase the magnitude, but it is as yet somewhat unclear how much.

Also, I was just curious because I remember you saying that with reality bending there is dangers if you do too much reality bending. I was wondering is there any dangers with increasing the magnitude of "luck" too much?

If pushed too far, there are dangers to manipulating luck too much. They are in fact similar to those of reality bending, but to a lesser degree in most cases. Manipulating your reality must be done with respect for the rules by which reality works, and with an awareness in mind for the universe to always balance itself. It is with these things in mind that we must proceed with appropriate wisdom, restraint, technique and caution in doing so. That is why we at IML take small steps and do not throw caution and safety to the wind. It takes longer, but it is a better result in the end.

Is there any limits to how much "luck" can be manipulated?

Yes.

Lastly, can't remember if you said you put LM in the DMSI already but if not will you probably make LM part of the skeleton script to aid in the goals of whatever program it is in? So, might be possible to see it in 3.3 (if it isn't already included in DMSI that is). Sorry if this is too many questions I'm just really interested in knowing this and excited about this subject.

There is a module in the skeleton script that does something similar to what LM does, but which is more appropriate for helping the user achieve the goals of the program they are using. It is not using luck, however.

So will limits on how much luck can be manipulated result in there being what can be manifested using LM/US?

This question is grammatically confusing. It appears to be missing one or more words.

[Darkness]

Shannon could you extensively optimize and refine the cognitive decoherence module. To help the user think super clearly and not be befuddled or have mental lag and be free of the inability to flow in conversation . Because I haven’t used any subs for two months now, and my brain is officially functioning at 100%. Even trivial socializing has improved. I’m not struggling to think, nor is my speech garbled and nonsensical.

What was the last sub you used?

DMSI was. It unfortunately tends with 5G tech onward.

[THolt]

Reality bending is designed to create a situation in which you make certain adjustments that result in the goals of the program. It's aimed not so much at magnifying the effects of the program, but the effectiveness of the program in achieving its goals. It is for the most part ASS/ART. The magnitude of "luck" is handled by something else.

@Shannon That last line caught my eye so I wanted to ask: Have you learned a lot from when you made LM 4g til now to the point where you can increase the magnitude by a lot?

I can increase the magnitude, but it is as yet somewhat unclear how much.

Also, I was just curious because I remember you saying that with reality bending there is dangers if you do too much reality bending. I was wondering is there any dangers with increasing the magnitude of "luck" too much?

If pushed too far, there are dangers to manipulating luck too much. They are in fact similar to those of reality bending, but to a lesser degree in most cases. Manipulating your reality must be done with respect for the rules by which reality works, and with an awareness in mind for the universe to always balance itself. It is with these things in mind that we must proceed with appropriate wisdom, restraint, technique and caution in doing so. That is why we at IML take small steps and do not throw caution and safety to the wind. It takes longer, but it is a better result in the end.

Is there any limits to how much "luck" can be manipulated?

Yes.

Lastly, can't remember if you said you put LM in the DMSI already but if not will you probably make LM part of the skeleton script to aid in the goals of whatever program it is in? So, might be possible to see it in 3.3 (if it isn't already included in DMSI that is). Sorry if this is too many questions I'm just really interested in knowing this and excited about this subject.

There is a module in the skeleton script that does something similar to what LM does, but which is more appropriate for helping the user achieve the goals of the program they are using. It is not using luck, however.

So will limits on how much luck can be manipulated result in there being what can be manifested using LM/US?

This question is grammatically confusing. It appears to be missing one or more words.

Shannon
I hastily wrote that. My bad

I meant to ask will there be limits in what can be manifested using LM?

[Shannon]

How do I consciously know what the instructions are? Or is it something that I will execute subconsciously?

You don't consciously know what the instructions are. They will be executed entirely at the subconscious level.

What do you exactly mean with those instructions? Adjusting body language/ voice tone / eye contact ? Becoming a more attractive man through body language? Or is it the programming that goes right into my subconscious mind?

I'm not sure what instructions you are referring to. The script? The program instructions? Something I mentioned?

If approaching girls isn’t executing the instructions, or talking to them, what is it then? Just curious

DMSI is designed to make you so sexually attractive that you don't have to approach. It doesn't stop you, but why would it be executing the instructions to approach if the goal is to simply be so attractive that that is not necessary in the first place?

Executing the instructions is just that. Those instructions are not public, so you won't know consciously what they are. When you start executing them, however, you should see a drastic change, like Thor did.

What you describe sounds like stonewalling.

I was referring to the instructions that DMSI gives you. I saw you mention that in a few posts. And of course, everything is subconsciously programmed so I can't know/hear them consciously.

I was trying to figure out what the instructions are, but now I understand it. I just have to wait and see how the women flock on to me and escalate sexually with me. I think my resistancev is also partly the fact that I was stressing about ''approaching''. Like when I was out in public or at the gym I got eye contact and I was like: SHIT, I HAVE TO APPROACH, DO SOMETHING? And then I got really confused about everything.. So DMSI is just basically wait until they talk to you and then you can arrange a date and escalate sexually?

I still pussy out when a girl stares in my direction/ have eye contact with a girl
I got male pattern baldness and a very young age (15). So i'm already 10 years bald and I hate it. And my fat body doesn't help aswell lol. THat's my major resistance. I am disgusted by my looks. But i'm working hard in the gym trying to gain muscles and lower in bodyfat.

So you are having a conflict between the goals of DMSI and your self image. I see we will need a self image adjustment module upgrade in 3.3.

I was walking around with all the PUA stuff in my head, I'm trying to get rid of it, I mean the mindset that a man must hunt etc... I just need women to come to me and then I will sexually escalate.

Once again, DMSI does not stop you from using PUA. It is not required that you do. But, when she must hunt you, it tells her that you have enough options that you don't need to hunt, and your value is percieved to be very high as a result. Men with an abundance of women don't hunt, they select from the offerings. But until you start having women react to the program enough to spark off the social proof that will result when you do, making your interests known isn't necessarily a bad thing. You just want to do it in a way that does not suggest you are of less value than DMSI is telling them you are. As in, don't go sarging the whole damned room. Pick one woman, the most attractive one, and let her and her alone know you are interested, but do it in a way that shows you don't need her, but you do want her. No desperation.

What do you mean with stonewalling? Like hard resistance?

Refusing to execute.

I'm going to increase my loops to 8 hours, i'm going to get those sleepheadphones, I need to crush and push through this resistance at all costs. Even if I have to listen 10 hours a day. So be it....

I think you have will have to work on this forever. Everything needs to get upgraded to 10G or something. Maybe 50G. Or make a script that will equal 1 hour of listening to 1000 hours of listening lol.

I am not going to work on this forever, regardless of what the last version does. I am going to push it as far as I can, and then stop. It's been 5 years now working to just upgrade 5G to 6G, and most of the progress is not visible to you guys because I haven't taken it out of Beast yet. There will be a HUGE jump when I do. And we are not far off at all from when I finish developing beast.

6G is the end of the line for the foreseeable future, but just FYI: 1 hour of 5.5G current already is about 1000 hours of listening compared to a 3 or 4G. What we need isn't more hours, it's the rest of the modules that get us past the resistance. Beast 16 is doing a really good job of that so far; not perfect, but good enough that testing it requires a lot of care.

DMSI 3.3 will be a large improvement over 3.2, just as 3.2 was over 3.1, and 3.1 was over 3.01. But it is likely to be either 3.4 or 4.0 where the biggest jump in power occurs. I'm only going to be mining Beast for the technology after it achieves design spec. We are getting close. Did a test yesterday that really surprised me, and formal testing is coming up shortly as well.

Thank you for extensive reply. That clear up alot of things for me.

So 6G is the end line for the foreseeable future, that means all of your products will end at 6G? What's left is tweaking the modules in order to get 99% past the resistance am I right? That sounds awesome, you are really doing an outstanding job Shannon. I appreciate your work!

6G is going to be "as far as I can push it". It may be that in 10 years there has accumulated enough new knowledge that I might be able to create a "7G", but realistically if it took me 5 years to go from 5G to 6G and 6G is "as far as I can push it", anything beyond that is going to be a LONG way away, so I am going to presume that 6G is "end of the line" and try to normalize all titles as 6G when I have finished developing it.

Right now what's left is finishing the development of Beast to the degree that it achieves design spec, and the modules I am developing right now are really, REALLY interesting stuff. This seems to be a series of really powerful concepts that are coming together really well, and I CANNOT WAIT to test B17. It's going to be a while before I can really work on B17, but it's looking very interesting.

So yes, it really does come down to overcoming the resistance. And that means we have to overcome the fear that underlies the resistance, which is what I am focused on achieving. Imagine OF 6G if I succeed!

For us beta testers of DMSI 3.2, will we get all of our upgrades for free or do you have to charge an x amount for the either 3.4 / 4.0 version? The latest version that will come out for DMSI?

I was originally going to do 3.4 to achieve design spec for DMSI and then upgrade it to 4.0 and charge for that. I would like to make some money on having spent all that time and effort on DMSI, but it will depend on how things play out with 3.4. I might stop there, or I might upgrade 3.4 to 4.0 and make it a free upgrade or give a discount on the price of whatever 4.0 costs for people who purchased pre-4.0 DMSI. Whatever I choose is going to be whatever turns out to be the most win-win option based on what facts I have at the time to assess the situation by. I can't yet be sure how 3.4 will perform, if 4.0 is even necessary, or things like that. One way or the other I will make money on DMSI-Final as long as it does what it's supposed to do. On the other hand, it's more than a year of work developing this, and you guys have gotten a lot of different versions free after paying for it just once. At the same time, it hasn't been super effective for most people. So there's a lot to consider in finding a balanced choice.

I'm going to try to find a way forward that produces the best outcome for everyone.

Also will you use Beast 16 or 17 for the development of the last definite version of our DMSI? I can imagine that will drive up the costs of course.

At the moment, what I have in mind is to develop 3.4 as the final 5.5G program, and then build 4.0 as a 6G. I am not sure that will turn out to be possible, reasonable, feasible, but I would like to see it happen that way. Then again, if the timing means I can make 3.4 in 6G maybe I'll do that. But I have to build two 6Gs before I am free to do anything else. One is the ASC 6G and one is the secondary custom contracted for, which is going to be a multi-stage set (most likely 6+1 stages). It is going to potentially be the biggest subliminal ever up to that point in terms of data (the first custom was a 20 gigabyte deal un-archived for all 7 stages). It is contracted to be made as the 2nd 6G, and it is going to be a very, very challenging program to build. But it will also be something that everyone can benefit from, and if I can make it work, it will be worth one hell of a lot to use it to a LOT of people. Including me.

I can't wait until it all comes out! I'm definitely saving up! If I want to run 3 different products: DMSI, AM, MLS, with each 35 days of rest in between. Will the other programs stay permanent in my subconscious? So when i'm running maximum learning speed I also get all the benefits from Alpha Male and DMSI ?

Permanency is a complex thing to discuss. I have done my best to make it possible, but a human is a dynamic system that is always changing and growing. There are different levels of permanency for different types of personality, different amounts of use, different usage patterns, different belief system bases, different levels of technology, and depending on what subliminals you use afterwards. I have done what I can to make the effects permanent. That is all I can tell you for certain.

[Shannon]

Shannon says to not try to clear things on our own (or at least not with any mind programming, or mind altering, no EFT tapping...), and let the sub do it, to not interfere. But I never follow that advice for long, because to me it's more important to become free, successful, and have what I want, than to wait and see how the subliminal solves it all subconsciously. I can't wait that long, I am committed to myself and my life.

So by doing that you invalidate the ability to know what DMSI is and is not doing, and slow me down from achieving the development it needs. That is a big part of the problem we have here, I never know if what you guys report is DMSI or something else you're doing that I don't know about.

I give those instructions for good reasons. Disregarding them slows down development. That's why we are stretching on into years now.

I'm not using DMSI, I didn't buy it yet. And most probably, even I'm curious, I won't do so unless a version of it is released, that is compatible with having an exclusive relationship with loyalty. What I'm using now is WM, the original version, doing stage 5 now. Now that I think, I will put it on my signature as many people do, it can prevent misunderstandings.

But because of my calling for healing and evolution, and the integrity with my coaching work, I will be unavoidably touching within things related to what the subliminals are doing. I simply cannot not use and be good at the tools that my clients pay me to teach them and help them with. Also in order to properly help them, I must grow at all costs, it can't be in any other way.

So yes, I don't count as a valid user to observe results from. Sorry for that. But I was doing it correctly before, years ago, while I could, when I wasn't forced to improve faster.

I'm not worried about you being a valid user, because you're not using an experimental. But if you give advice that detracts from my ability to gather useful data from those who are using the experimental, it makes things harder for me. They are already ridiculously difficult. I want people who are using DMSI to use it alone so I can see what IT does and does not do, not have to guess if it was DMSI or any of whatever other things they are doing/taking/trying/etc.

That's correct, I just edited that post to make it clear that what I shared I do, shouldn't be done by those using DMSI or any other experimental or test programs.

Much appreciated.

[Shannon]

Is the US/LM focus fire sub a part of DMSI? Or it's own sub completely separate from it? Thanks.

No, it is not. It is completely separate.

[Shannon]

Have anyone feels any signs of TDI 3.3 already?

I have had some interesting experiences that I have been wondering about, which could be TID... but I was not planning to run 3.3, so I'm not sure what to think.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon, is US/LM 5.5g more effective than the current BAMM for achieving wealth/success?

Extremely no.