Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Zane]

DMSI hasnt got me laid directly yet but it does seem to attract powerful/successful people to me that are willing to help me in whatever im trying to do. Im happy with this. Im going to check the boundary for this and see if this will attract people to me that will help me become a millionaire. Lol

Yes, I have noticed this also.

[ichigo]

Hey Shannon,

I've got Testosterone Maximizer 5G purchased and I'm going to use it after my week long break from Overcome ED 5G. OED 5G worked really well, but the erections aren't as hard as I would like, and I've been having the urge to use TM which I think could be OED's Optimus Engine at work?

Anyway, my question is, do the effects of TM work similar to steroids, in that once I stop listening, the effects slowly taper off and then I'm back to the same level as before I used the program, or do the increases become permanent? Thanks.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon,

I've got Testosterone Maximizer 5G purchased and I'm going to use it after my week long break from Overcome ED 5G. OED 5G worked really well, but the erections aren't as hard as I would like, and I've been having the urge to use TM which I think could be OED's Optimus Engine at work?

Anyway, my question is, do the effects of TM work similar to steroids, in that once I stop listening, the effects slowly taper off and then I'm back to the same level as before I used the program, or do the increases become permanent? Thanks.

I would expect that it will maintain that level of testosterone for as long as the impetus is there. I don't know for sure, but if I were to have to bet on one or the other, I would bet on, it fades after a while without use, especially if you use a different sub.

[Theron]

Almost fourth week on Side A,
The initial attractions and dreams seen during B are not happening anymore. About once a week, I get very irritated due to nofap, which is currently at day 7. Interestingly, the urge to fab becomes the highest around once a week, when I feel more tired than usual. It sounds like it follows a cycle of some kind, but not necessarily a 7 day one. but more like 89-10 day cycle when I get super exhausted and get a huge urge to fap. I have lost that fight a few times already, But i get back on the nofap right away.

It also gets a bit irritating especially since 2.3 and 2.4 seem to give results so much faster. yes, I know this is an upgrade. But I am not feeling that B version's magic anymore and that is causing a lot of frustration to sit and not do anything. What do I need to breakthrough?
on the other hand, Shannon is it possible that your mind is also giving you lot of resistance in terms of obstacles as you try hard to plug the gaps and make progress on this?

[samba99]

I officially achieved the design goal of DMSI 3.2A in my dream! Lol.

I had a dream that I was in McDonald’s ordering food then out of no where a hot girl who’s working there came to me and said “what are you doing later? Maybe we can have some fun in bed”.

This never happened on B said.

I also noticed something, when I am frustrated and exhausted I notice more women attention. Pretty weird huh?

Another thing I noticed is being careless, whenever I am careless I see more attraction and attention. This careless usually comes after being frustrated

[Jaeger]

Today marks completing a month of 3.2A and I'd like some input. So far I've done a month of 3.2B and now a month of 3.2B. To me, 3.2B was refreshing and I felt like a lot of the secondary objectives of
DMSI were being executed. On 3.2A, I've felt some rather strong resistance with the lessening of me executing. I went from actually not masterbating in 3.2B to doing so a few times a week in 3.2A as an example. Being in 3.2A has also made me more anxious in daily life, nothing I can't overcome but I rather not deal with it.

I haven't achieved the main objective in either side still, but wanted to know what would be more beneficial in the long term. I obviously have some things to clear, but at the same time I just want to execute. Should I stay with A or go back to B? Hopefully Shannon can give me his input as well.

[Have at ye]

I'd say go with ver. A for the time being. Try to exert some self-discipline regarding stuff you *know* is resistance. Sooner or later you'll cut off all avenues of distraction/escape (letting The Wall settle in), and then you may find yourself in a state of "damn it, I either execute this or else I'm just gonna sit here alone in the dark like a miserable moron *forever*". And then you'll start executing the stuff you've been resisting.

At least that's what I had to go through to get cracking with certain aspects of ver. A's healing.

[Maltana]

So after one month of DMSI 3.2 B and 3,5 cycles (7 on 1 off) of 3.2 A i will make a quick review:

Time on B:

- after around 3-4 days of B I already was on the peak of execution so far
- after that the external effects gradually decreased and after around 3 weeks of B I was back to little to no effects
- I sometimes still felt the heat of the aura or increased hunger and thirst but little to no external effects in the last two weeks of B

-> I think that in the first days the wall did it´s job but after some time my subconscious mind seemed to find a way to get through the wall


Time on A:

- on the day when I switched to 3.2 A I felt great even hours before the first loop and also saw external effects again
- while listening the first time to 3.2 A I felt this euphoric feeling (I never felt it on B) and some strong change of my perception but only on this day
- already on the next day everything was decreased and decreased further in the following days
- while on A I had 1-2 weeks where I felt pretty depressive, perhaps triggered resistances
- i had around 3 clearly sexual dreams while on A
- the aura and the heat felt much weaker then on B but i still felt it from time to time
- it sometimes feels like after a day when I executed better my expectations on DMSI rised so that I automatically put myself on such pressure so that the execution in the following days where restricted

- today (still on A) without any reason I felt great again and the euphoric feeling and a strong heat (equal to the heat on B) returned and also some external effects where seen
-> perhaps some resistances where overcome so that i began to execute better or this perhaps already is TID from a following Version of DMSI but time will tell

[Shannon]

Almost fourth week on Side A,
The initial attractions and dreams seen during B are not happening anymore. About once a week, I get very irritated due to nofap, which is currently at day 7. Interestingly, the urge to fab becomes the highest around once a week, when I feel more tired than usual. It sounds like it follows a cycle of some kind, but not necessarily a 7 day one. but more like 89-10 day cycle when I get super exhausted and get a huge urge to fap. I have lost that fight a few times already, But i get back on the nofap right away.

It also gets a bit irritating especially since 2.3 and 2.4 seem to give results so much faster. yes, I know this is an upgrade. But I am not feeling that B version's magic anymore and that is causing a lot of frustration to sit and not do anything. What do I need to breakthrough?
on the other hand, Shannon is it possible that your mind is also giving you lot of resistance in terms of obstacles as you try hard to plug the gaps and make progress on this?

I would say you need to break through the same thing everyone else does: fear. I'm not sure I understand your question, it has ambiguous grammar. I think you're asking if my own mind is attempting to prevent me from succeeding. Since I'm not running it, and that would be ineffective regardless, I would have to say no. It's just a matter of understanding the what and why of what is going on.

[Shannon]

I officially achieved the design goal of DMSI 3.2A in my dream! Lol.

I had a dream that I was in McDonald’s ordering food then out of no where a hot girl who’s working there came to me and said “what are you doing later? Maybe we can have some fun in bed”.

This never happened on B said.

I also noticed something, when I am frustrated and exhausted I notice more women attention. Pretty weird huh?

Not really. That's when you are less resistant.

Another thing I noticed is being careless, whenever I am careless I see more attraction and attention. This careless usually comes after being frustrated

Maybe this is being carefree, instead of careless? Maybe this is less energy to resist? Tired of resisting? Some part of you tired of the fear that holds you back?

[Shannon]

Today marks completing a month of 3.2A and I'd like some input. So far I've done a month of 3.2B and now a month of 3.2B. To me, 3.2B was refreshing and I felt like a lot of the secondary objectives of
DMSI were being executed. On 3.2A, I've felt some rather strong resistance with the lessening of me executing. I went from actually not masterbating in 3.2B to doing so a few times a week in 3.2A as an example. Being in 3.2A has also made me more anxious in daily life, nothing I can't overcome but I rather not deal with it.

I haven't achieved the main objective in either side still, but wanted to know what would be more beneficial in the long term. I obviously have some things to clear, but at the same time I just want to execute. Should I stay with A or go back to B? Hopefully Shannon can give me his input as well.

The more you see reversal resistance, the more you know that something is being worked on that scares the shit out of your subconscious. And that means that the blocks to the goals of DMSI are being worked on.

Partial execution, or H&C toward full execution? Hmmm. Which one is good enough for you?

[Shannon]

So after one month of DMSI 3.2 B and 3,5 cycles (7 on 1 off) of 3.2 A i will make a quick review:

Time on B:

- after around 3-4 days of B I already was on the peak of execution so far
- after that the external effects gradually decreased and after around 3 weeks of B I was back to little to no effects
- I sometimes still felt the heat of the aura or increased hunger and thirst but little to no external effects in the last two weeks of B

-> I think that in the first days the wall did it´s job but after some time my subconscious mind seemed to find a way to get through the wall


Time on A:

- on the day when I switched to 3.2 A I felt great even hours before the first loop and also saw external effects again
- while listening the first time to 3.2 A I felt this euphoric feeling (I never felt it on B) and some strong change of my perception but only on this day
- already on the next day everything was decreased and decreased further in the following days
- while on A I had 1-2 weeks where I felt pretty depressive, perhaps triggered resistances
- i had around 3 clearly sexual dreams while on A
- the aura and the heat felt much weaker then on B but i still felt it from time to time
- it sometimes feels like after a day when I executed better my expectations on DMSI rised so that I automatically put myself on such pressure so that the execution in the following days where restricted

- today (still on A) without any reason I felt great again and the euphoric feeling and a strong heat (equal to the heat on B) returned and also some external effects where seen
-> perhaps some resistances where overcome so that i began to execute better or this perhaps already is TID from a following Version of DMSI but time will tell

Euphoria means execution. It's not TID. Don't let expectations sink you.

[Blacksheep]

Wow that’s a very timely comment Shannon. I just came here after wondering about the Euphoric feeling myself. I suppose that means I should continue listening to A

[Theron]

Almost fourth week on Side A,
The initial attractions and dreams seen during B are not happening anymore. About once a week, I get very irritated due to nofap, which is currently at day 7. Interestingly, the urge to fab becomes the highest around once a week, when I feel more tired than usual. It sounds like it follows a cycle of some kind, but not necessarily a 7 day one. but more like 89-10 day cycle when I get super exhausted and get a huge urge to fap. I have lost that fight a few times already, But i get back on the nofap right away.

It also gets a bit irritating especially since 2.3 and 2.4 seem to give results so much faster. yes, I know this is an upgrade. But I am not feeling that B version's magic anymore and that is causing a lot of frustration to sit and not do anything. What do I need to breakthrough?
on the other hand, Shannon is it possible that your mind is also giving you lot of resistance in terms of obstacles as you try hard to plug the gaps and make progress on this?

I would say you need to break through the same thing everyone else does: fear. I'm not sure I understand your question, it has ambiguous grammar. I think you're asking if my own mind is attempting to prevent me from succeeding. Since I'm not running it, and that would be ineffective regardless, I would have to say no. It's just a matter of understanding the what and why of what is going on.

I was referring to the problems you are facing in your life while you battle creating the DMSI. since things like reality bending are getting worked on, is it possible that is giving you a load of problems?