Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Have at ye]

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Low volume (-30db), headphones.

[JackOfHearts]

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Must I don't think so but the amount of girls able to initiate a conversation on their own is very low, sex even lower. So I would say it's out of character or out of the norm for a girl to initiate. I don't think it's impossible for them to initiate as I have seen it.

Actually I may not have explained myself properly above.

Girls usually don't initiate directly and straightforwardly, when they do initiate a conversation like most guys they will pretend they aren't doing it because they want you. I have heard the excuse that they know me from somewhere at least 5 times this month when they initiated conversations with me.
I think it's easier for them to initiate as long as you don't reciprocate the interest in them but once you do it seems harder for them.
So if I look at it closely what I have seen from their perspective isn't really them initiating but having the intent to make me initiate so I show my interest and when I show interest they go crazy and run
To their perspective they can pretend they weren't interested at all, they thought they knew me, it was mistake I guess complete denial.

A truly initiating girl would say something like " You look sexy, let's go grab a beer and talk or let's go somewhere to f**k"

I'm going to try that next time on them, maybe the rate would higher than just talking to them

interesting, I have the same incidents when i went out.

One night i was in the club close to a bar with my buddy. This girl shows up alone at the bar orders two shtos and taps on my shoudler and gave one to me.

I looked at her and she hands it to me and i drank it and she just LEAVES, like nothing happened.
I of course went to start a conversation and she just keeps on avioding me sorta...
like she would answer my question while heading to her friends etc... then head to dancefloor.

This other night, girl opens me asking what my name was. Funny shit her friend just leaves her alone with me and im like wow perfect?
I started moving things forward, talk to her, take her hand and dance.
After like 3 minutes she says: i gotta go see my friend.
Im thinking..... wtf =_= ?

Yah and there were a bunch of chicks where i initiated and they were really affected by me, like bluhsing entire time im talking to me etc... but they never really respond after for day 2s..

U guys have any idea for this?

I had those incidents since doing SM3, I'm on WM2 right now, I didn't noticed that pattern with SM3 because there weren't as much girl interested. It probably happened with AM6 and DMSI too but I don't remember.

I have some theories about why it happens:
-I didn't integrate the sub completely, something is off still.
-The girls just want to see if we are attracted to them, once they know they aren't interested anymore, it's an ego thing.
-They are too fearful to go further once they know there is a mutual connexion or they think they aren't good enough for us.
-Maybe the sub only makes some superficial change and when we talk to the girls they notice the person isn't as attractive/masculine and great as they thought he was. A bit like if I was wearing makeup to hide my face behind a mask.

[Theron]

Just finished my first loop with 3.2A. It made me lie down and sleep for 15 mins and I had to struggle to stay awake. Its hard to focus on work with this sub. Went from a fully awake state to super sleepy in under 2-3 minutes of play. I'm using the ocean Hybrid track mp3 on earphones.
super tired, super sleepy in the middle of the day!!

[lano1106]

In that sense is actually opening an interaction with a random girl against the goals of the program?

Why would it be 'against' the goals of the program? Yeah when you're fully executing, a girl can approach you (perhaps many girls on a frequent basis). But you can also decide to approach other girls when you want to. I don't see how it would conflict?

Against is a big word. I would rather say that it is not the best setup. The person who approach the other sets a frame.

The frame is more favorable to the approached person than for the approaching one.

Also, I suspect that if you approach too often it sends the message to your unconscious mind that you are selling something and chasing rather than being in demand...

Something really useful to change my behavior that I got from psychocybernetics book is to imagine someone that has the behavior that I want to have and ask what that person would do and think in that situation.

Think of any very successful man with women and I guarantee you that he does not approach more. If you want to become like that person, you need to start doing and thinking like that person. Sometimes, the reasons why you need to act that way won't be totally clear to you until you become that new person...

This is probably why DMSI prefer you to let targets initiate...

I do open a lot of persons but with the following precautions

1. I open (not approaching) everyone. not just attractive women
2. I don't want anything from them. I just give them the opportunity to initiate. iow, change the frame rapidly if they are interested

[Raikahoken]

Do we have to finish our 14 days of B before we can start using side A with its loops?
Not in a big rush, but I want to make sure that it's done correctly.

Bump. Shannon please answer this, thank you.

[4Kingdoms]

Shannon so what exactly is the difference between A and B? It's H&C module, but what exactly is in it?

Goal #2: To support goal #1, we have to develop, enhance and improve your self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, overcome fear, guilt and shame (yes, it has the entire script of E2’s OGSF and self validation modules in it [V2.0 and later], although it is modified to not disrupt the goals of this program) and so forth. These are the goals that will make you congruent with the effects you get from Goal #1, which is required for maximum success. Now much more heavily, aggressively and specifically focused on the achieving the goals of the program. This goal is only active in 3.2-A.

[Shannon]

Do we have to finish our 14 days of B before we can start using side A with its loops?
Not in a big rush, but I want to make sure that it's done correctly.

It should be okay to just switch over, as long as you plan on staying with A for at least a month straight.

[Shannon]

Do we have to finish our 14 days of B before we can start using side A with its loops?
Not in a big rush, but I want to make sure that it's done correctly.

Hmm on past versions I would have said just switch. But in this case i'm unsure since the secondary ASRB is different. Shannon can answer that when he comes online.

It's interesting that Version A is 7 days on. In my mind it makes me think of the power of the healing, but i'm not sure if it means anything really.

Version A makes it more likely i'll use it. I respond better to the more gentle approach over the authoritative approach. But i'm still trying to to focus on other things, but it's a struggle to resist haha.

The more frequent days off mean there is more need for rest and processing time. H&C all the way.

[Shannon]

Just downloaded version A. Comparing the file size to version B, A is smaller. I would have thought otherwise.

Would have expected A to be bigger then B because of the additional clearing script.

Ben\Shannon please confirm ?

Both are 60 minutes of audio. They just have different primary ASRB ratios.

[Shannon]

Yeah, both A and B contain 60 minutes of subliminals.

But Shannon never said how many loops is A, are we supposed to assume it's one?

I told Ben to tell you, because I was too tired last night to update the page. It's 1 loop per day, except for a couple of people I am going to calculate specific options for in testing: CatMan and Swisston. That will be done when I get a chance.

[Shannon]

Hmm. Good news is - ver. A is working. Bad news is - ver. A is working. lol. Just had the craziest dreams in a long, long time. It was pretty much a lucid dream, with multi-level sleep paralysis (I was dreaming that I'm aware that I'm dreaming that I'm aware that I'm dreaming... lol). Bits of it were great, definitely healing-related. And then I stumbled upon something that was less than pleasant. Took as much of it as I could, and then decided - whoa, I'm outta here. And started gradually waking up. Still feeling kinda loopy.

Haven't had one of these types of dreams in *years*. I remember having been able to achieve a similar dream-state willingly, but have not done such a thing since way before AOSI.

This begs the question - has the subconscious shielding module been turned off for 3.2? Or is it that I'm just this weird? lol.

BTW. listening to the loop of A itself made me feel pretty much ecstatic, with physical sensations being much different than what I'd get on ver. B.

This is promising.

Conscious shielding was turned off in B, and it is turned on in A.

[THolt]

Hey Shannon

Quick question. Is there any chance that the sub “Socializing is a Game” will be remade in 5.5G in the future?

Thanks

[KingDavid93]

What exactly does the conscious shielding do?

[Jake2015]

Shannon,

Thanks for bringing out DMSI-A and for your hard work!!

1) I have stopped stonewalling as you know, so does this mean that all subs after 3.2 will be executed by me, or is there still a chance of stonewalling to occur?

2) I seem to so far just not fap, so im executing but not on all things. Is there chance now I can execute more of 3.2, or will I have to wait now for 3.3?

3) Anything in 3.2 to stop one from living an online life, and get more outside to meet real women?

thanks in advance as always my friend! (im jumping on A from today)