Shannon's Journal Discussion

[RTBoss]

Based on Ben's usage patterns, don't expect the files to be linked for about 10-11 hours from now. It's just after 1AM where he's at, and his last login was about 30 minutes ago (yes, I'm stalking you Benny boy!).

[4Kingdoms]

Oh, I will reiterate one more time... I strongly recommend that everybody do a MINIMUM of 1 week of A (and preferably 4) before using B. Do NOT recommend trying to use them both in a single day. Use each for a week at a time, minimum.

So the B version is going to be the unicorn of the two?

Shannon I can alternate between A and B?

Shannon answered that above your question. (Alternate Weekly)

[dweller94]

3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3hours 27mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

[Shannon]

Regarding alcohol not being physically addictive, I must heartily disagree. I used to work in a hospital during college. My job was to sit with patients who were a danger to themselves. Many were alcoholics going through detox. The physical symptoms of withdrawal can be so nasty it can literally kill you. I've been with people who have had no idea who they are, where they were, or unable to construct a coherent sentence because their brains were no longer getting the fuel (poison) it had adapted to. DTS, delirium tremens, is nooooo joke.

Physical addiction, and dosage dependent withdrawal, are hardly the same thing.

When you drink heavily and regularly, you can cause your body to become screwed up and it will require a slow decrease in alcohol consumption to back out of that situation. But that has nothing to do with physical addiction. It's a situation in which you cannot change the body chemistry too radically in too short a period of time without causing imbalances. Push it far enough and those imbalances can result in death - but it is a case where there is a requirement for slow removal of the toxin (alcohol), nothing more.

Go from drinking nothing ever to downing a 20 ounce bottle of liquor and see if that doesn't kill you just as effectively as suddenly and completely stopping a hard drinking long term drinker will. Both are the same situation: they are both a state of too much change for the body to deal with in too short a time.

Alcohol is not physically addictive. It can only be psychologically addictive. And it's misunderstandings like this one that perpetuate these ideas.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

Pardon me if I rewiring this problem again, Curious...

AP code...
I have been seen this statement:

"I would strongly suggest not pirating my stuff. Those who want to believe they can circumvent or ignore my anti-piracy code don't get a free pass just for being ignorant fools. They just deal with the consequences of their actions in different ways, which they may not be intelligent or aware enough to notice or understand. But rest assured, had they intelligence and wisdom, they would rather pay for it than steal it from me. There is no way around it."

Can you explain more that italic bold statement? Does it mean that people are triggered with code will be destructive in behavior (besides attain the program goal?)?

Thanks.
Sorry to be Thread Starter again about this debateful argument.

That no longer applies. It referred to a previous version of the AP code which is no longer in use, and which was discovered to be somehow missing the code to execute that part. Which is why we now have this new AP code, which will have teeth.

[JackOfHearts]

3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

To me it's more the earphone annoyance than the sound itself. When I hear the same sound for a long time period my brain no longer acknowledge that sound as relevant so I no longer notice it.
3 hours 45m is a new record though. Now I'm hesitating for the non healing version as there is not a much loop to do.

[dweller94]

3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

To me it's more the earphone annoyance than the sound itself. When I hear the same sound for a long time period my brain no longer acknowledge that sound as relevant so I no longer notice it.
3 hours 45m is a new record though. Now I'm hesitating for the non healing version as there is not a much loop to do.

Yeah forgot to mention the earphone annoyance, I was hoping for one loop lol, we got three. Get those heals in man, it'll go a long way for all of us!

[Shannon]

You get what the models tell me is the best option.

[robstar]

3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

Did I miss something? Are earphones necessary for the hybrid?
PS 207 = 3 hours and 27 minutes.

[eternity]

Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

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I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

First of all, despite popular mythology, alcoholism isn't an addiction and it sure as hell isn't any type of "disease". They'd love to make you think it is, because then you don't have to take responsibility for not buying, opening and drinking it... so someone can make money or have control of you on some sort of "recovery" regimen.

The truth is, alcoholism is self medication, just like smoking, and marijuana and most other drugs, but alcohol isn't physically addictive. It's psychologically very addictive to certain personality and physiology types, though, because they find an easy escape in it.

Stop smoking works best as a six stage approach because there's a lot of different variables to dealing with it than alcoholism. And at some point, "science" will figure that out.

Until then... alcoholism is a choice, but the physical addiction does not exist. The root cause of alcoholism is the seeking to escape guilt, shame, fear and/or self loathing through the effects of alcohol on the brain. The "addiction" is really just a heightened psychological tendency to escapism, and it is enabled and empowered by the "addiction" and "disease" labels. Give that same person a way to deal with whatever they're dealing with through alcohol in another way, deny them their drug of choice, and they'll go straight to that new option because they're still trying to escape, rather than deal with it.

A lot of it has to do with the person's level of emotional maturity. More maturity leads to more likely "recovery" (which is itself a ***** term used to retroactively imply "disease and addiction"). I have witnessed "alcoholics" at all stages of "alcoholism" for decades now, and the ones who keep doing it are the ones who believe they can get away with it, or believe they have no other choice. The rest sober up and move on with life.

In this regard, just as with smoking, it is the beliefs that bind you. Beliefs that you have no other choice, beliefs that you have no need to grow up and take responsibility for your choices and actions because someone else will do it for you, or forgive you, or pat you on the head.

Smoking has a lot of the same thing, and is vastly more socially acceptable. It actually is a legitimate addiction, albeit a much more minor one than people think.

But the real difference between why those two programs are different sizes boils down to two things.

1. Stop Drinking got very good feedback in one stage, and Stop Smoking did not;
2. The people prone to alcoholism have a different physiology and psychology than those who are prone to smoking, but not alcoholism. Different approaches are required for each.

It is going to be that both programs will be rebuilt in 6G. They may be 1, 3 or 6 stages each, it will depend on whatever works best.

Do you not think a "Be addiction free" sub would be possible in 6G rather than multiple different subs?

It's possible. We shall see. But since alcoholism isn't an addiction...

Shannon, while we have disagreed about addiction in the past, I've learned over time that you were definitely right about a lot of things. I'm replying to this post since it's somewhat relevant.

I know you are busy with a whole bunch of more important things, but do you think you can describe what you mean when you say alcoholism isn't an addiction?

I combated drug addiction and alcoholism for 10 years, and finally got sober on thanksgiving day 2014. (Nov 27 marked my 2 years of being completely substance free, and that was no small feat!!!!!) I also quit nicotine Nov 2015 so I have 1 year free of that addiction. I do agree that alcoholism and cigarette addiction are NOT the same thing, so I guess we're just referring to an issue of semantics when I say my addiction to alcohol was an addiction.

And for the record, I'm 100% your subs had a HUGE impact on the rapid development of me from the inside out. Between am6, OF5G and E2, and other outside help that I have sought, I went from being the black sheep of society to a highly respected member of society.

You have really helped change my life Shannon, to a magnitude you wouldnt be able to fathom unless you knew the before and after versions of me. And for that I express my deepest gratitude for you and your work, and for what you contribute to this world.




EDIT : never mind I jumped the gun and didn't see that you already wrote a detailed response. I heavily disagree with what you say about alcoholism, but we can agree to disagree on that. I wonder if "alcohol is not physically addictive" is a statement with a different meaning? of semantics? Delerium tremens is a thing. I have experienced it. I've seen people seize out in front of me from not detoxing properly. One guy busted his head on the concrete from an alcohol withdrawal induced seizure. If that doesn't constitute as physical addiction, I'm at a loss for words and the comprehension of the subject has gone way beyond my understanding

Double edit: just thoroughly read that you described my first edit in a previous post. Well, my beliefs about the subject are quite certainly heavily influenced by personal experience. That being said, Shannon, though being a master in the field of the human mind, understanding of a subject like this would be vastly different between someone like you, being on the outside looking in, vs me, being on the inside looking out. Kind of like cancer. I know you've beaten it. Only you know, first hand, all of what it entails. Even if I learned all about it, the science, the medicine, the bodys reaction to it.... not having the actuak experience of having cancer and beating it would leave a little hole in my comprehension of the subject compared to you, who knows the science, medicine, body's reaction to it, ALONG with first hand experience of it.

Regardless, I'm sure the discussion we can get into about this can take up a lot of time and we all just want dmsi out already I still respect your opinion on the subject and I will readily drop my belief in the subject if a superior one is presented to me (which thus far has not been available, in my years of experience)

[dweller94]

3 loops of 3.0.1A will work out to 69x3 = 207mins which is 3 hours 45 mins, don't think I can keep earphones in for that long, it can get annoying even for a trickle stream lover, but hybrid is more power!!!

Did I miss something? Are earphones necessary for the hybrid?
PS 207 = 3 hours and 27 minutes.

No, you can play the hybrid on speakers as long as minimum output is 20khz, I wanted to use hybrid with earphones only for max impact lol

My bad 3 hours 27mins, where did I get the 45 from..

[freerad98]

..snip
My bad 3 hours 27mins, where did I get the 45 from..

207/60 = 3.45 hrs = 3 hrs 27 mins

[dweller94]

..snip
My bad 3 hours 27mins, where did I get the 45 from..

207/60 = 3.45 hrs = 3 hrs 27 mins

When you divide by 100 hahaha I need to sleep.

[AriGold]

Hey Shannon,
if something is blocking me to attract my perfect xy, what program would be best to release the blockage?
How long do I have to use the program?
How will I know when the blockage is removed without using AYP for 8 months again to find myself at the same blockage?