Shannon's Journal Discussion

[bits]

As to the anger some of you have felt, that is almost certainly an increase in testosterone and/or the pheromone androstenone. Other parts of the script should temper it in the right ways to result in achieving the goals of the program.

Shannon, wouldn't it be better to leave this in to help with overall drive, sex drive, confidence, and of course pheromones? I know when my dad started testosterone replacement he had a short temper for about a week and then went back to normal. Same with guys who try pheromones for the first time and they use a heavy androstenone blend. The first 4 or 5 times they struggle with it but then go back to normal once they get used to it.

I would hate to risk anything tempering my testosterone levels, I was at 585 and managed to get up to 893 with weight loss and vitamin d/k/e/a and microdosing dhea and the difference is pretty big for me.

[Shannon]

Having a hard time narrowing the goal scripting down below three options.

Naive question inbound: Can't you just try each of them?

Well, that is an option... I could build all three, and it would cost me at least 72 hours of work to do so. Then I would have three valid products to offer: "Soft", "Medium" and "Hard". (Referring to the women who would respond to each.)

Then I could make them all available in the store, and give a description of what each is good for. Then you could choose for yourself.

But, this would inevitably lead to someone trying to take advantage of the refund policy by trying to "return" one and get another, or "trade in". Not good.

The options I have in response to that are, offer no refund at all, or make it a bundle pack, at triple the cost.

If I offer no refund, then I lose a lot of sales. If I do the triple pack, then someone's going to use it wrong, screw up their results and then ask for a refund.

So... I think I'll pass. You guys will get the single option that works best overall.

At the moment, DMSI is in testing phase, so the users won't get a refund anyway. Why not offering all three to the guys who are already testing v2.1?
That way, you will get test reports on all three versions and maybe you can then tweak the whole thing to only have one or two final versions at the end.

But yea, nevertheless, one single option would be the easiest for all.

Didn't I explain why not in the very post you responded to? Here, I'll be more specific.

I release 3 versions of DMSI V2.2. Refund or not, someone is going to be stupid and try to use version X for a week, decide he really wants to use version Y, and then cause both to fail because they conflict in his mind. Then he's going to jump to version Z, get the same results for the same reason, and publicly bash DMSI and me and everyone else because how dare I charge that much money for something that "obviously doesn't work".

So you see, I am forced to protect you all, and myself, from the stupidity of a small group of people. "This is why we can't have nice tings."

[Shannon]

Is it ok to listen to the 5 loops not consecutively, but rather spread out in the day? Like 2 loops here, 2 loops a few hours later, 1 loop later? I'm one of those that don't like listening to subs while sleeping.

You could do that, but it breaks ASRB, and really lowers the power of the program. It's not designed or intended for that, and I strongly recommend against it. Effectively you are introducing a secondary ASRB by doing that, which is completely random.

[Shannon]

Shannon, when AM7 comes out, is it gonna be single stage or multi-stage? Or you don't know yet?

Multi-stage. Too complex for single stage.

[Dubls]

Shannon I've just read your post on you working on a new AOS and I would like to suggest the following:


1. Prevent envious and ***** up people from trying to harm you in anyway

2. STD protection and the other protections you added in SM like women tricking you to get pregnant etc.

3. Be able to somehow control the Aura and not it controlling you. Meaning if you don't feel like being looked at and just left alone then so be it, because it gets annoying and uncomfortable if you don't feel like it. Another example is you go to the doctor and they start acting all weird and stuff and you start worrying if they might **** up.

I'm working from April 2016 to present so bear with me if this has been discussed, but I strongly disagree with your third suggestion. The idea of being able to turn it on and off at will (if that's even possible to program in) is a variable that I think will detract, if not sabotage, the efficacy of the program. This program is engineered—with 5.5G technology no less—to instill a powerful state of being that most of us are attracted to because it is not our reality. We want to achieve something that may have been impossible or painfully slow to attain otherwise. Think about the hottest girls you've seen (the ones you're using this program to try to have sex with): they can't turn it off. It's who they are and they deal with it every day. And for all the hassle, think about the enormous power they wield. If you want this to work, then it needs to be congruent with who you are, because if there's one thing women can smell its dissonance. In my opinion, if you can 'turn it off' then it's not a genuine part of you, and you won't maximize your sexual irresistibility as the title suggests.

[Shannon]

Yes, they call men superficial and yet are incredibly impressed by height. And when I was younger and used to go clubbing with a group of people I knew, my black friends did so much better than my white or Asian friends. I mean women used to literally chat them up, but look right through the rest of us.

I can vouch for that.

I've been out of style apparently my whole life, and have gone through the EXACT experience you listed, all through high school, college, club scene, you name it. Yep. Infuriating to me, and led to many beliefs and anger and jealousy, over my life towards "them", I'll admit. Not going further than that, as I don't want any forum rules broken.

Looking forward to MSI 2.2 leveling the playing field a bit, finally. I've been passed over long enough. I'm going to stick with E2, at least until 2.2 debuts.

So, rest assured my furry friend, and anyone else holding these stupid-ass views: the black men ain't stealing up your women. The problem is your faulty ass beliefs that you refuse to acknowledge, even when you have the most powerful subliminals in the world floating around in your head.

Not sure real experiences can be 'stupid ass'. I was commenting on the superficiality of women, not getting angry about anyone stealing white women. And as I said, the black men I was talking about were friends. There wasn't resentment, just observation, over and over and over again. Oh and it wasn't their pickup ability or personality, the women made a beeline for them without them doing anything.

I think what might be happening is the type of caucasian women who like black men over white men tend to be a hell of a lot more aggressive.. while this is so those women are in the minority. I have found in my experience that women generally tend to prefer white men

I think what might be happening is that women are taught that Black men always have huge dicks compared to Caucasian or Asian men. I don't know how true this is, and I don't care, but it's a factor to consider.

You should also know that Black men produce the most intense androstenone signature of all the races, and therefore they DO things most other races don't do, and they get sexual reactions most other races don't get. Black men naturally produce more of the primary aggression and sexual attraction pheromone, which gives them a lot more self confidence in general (regardless of how other factors may mitigate or derail this one) and makes them more sexually attractive to women - especially women who are within range of that level of androstenone to not be totally intimidated by it (as Asian women tend to be). In other words, Black men will be pheromonally most naturally attractive to Black women first, Hispanic women second and White women third.

But all this is generalizing so much as to be generally useless and difficult to observe in real life, because there are way too many important factors to consider. I'm just pointing out this one.

I think personally that Black men who choose to make themselves successful tend to have the most respect for that among all the races, because generally they do face more challenges than other races. But I would say that a lot of the challenges they face are self inflicted, based on beliefs that they can't, when they can. Anyone who decides to be successful and refuses to be anything else can be. I don't care what color your skin is, because it's not skin color that changes the world, its what reality you tune into with your beliefs and their resultant ourward reality.

Which is one big reason why, Chaos, using, focusing on and harboring negative emotions is self destructive instead of useful. They may be good for motivation, but they align you vibrationally with a world view of strife which tunes you into a world where that strife is what you wanted it to be - or what your subconscious understood your conscious mind to be requesting, regardless of how erroroneous that "understanding" is.

But believe me, while I am not a Black man, and I have not dealt with anywhere near as much racism as you have, there are things I still struggle to release 20+ years later that have made me incredibly angry. I can tell you, though, that releasing anger has always made my life better, not worse.

[Shannon]

Anybody noticing increased luck on dmsi? maybe its coincidences

Or OE...

[Shannon]

From Shannon`s journal:

I am consistently amazed at what I learn about women through these extended runs of the models on various things. The five goal options include some really surprising stuff, and it's definitely up there in effectiveness, but what it says about what women say they want, versus what they REALLY want, is just ridiculous.

Shannon could you share your knowledge about this issue with us? Just a couple of tips, please. I`m very curious.

Generally, women say they want and consciously believe they want what society and religion tell them is acceptable to want.

What they really want is what all humans want, because all humans are ... well, as a race, we are the second most sexual creatures on the planet, only exceeded by Bonobo monkeys, who actually use full on impregnation sex as a greeting, farewell, and for many other purposes. W - - - - s, all of us.

[Shannon]

I don't know if nailing it down to simply hard, medium or soft is a good idea anyway, because if you see a women who you want, you aren't going to know which category she falls into and consequently if you are using the wrong 'grade' you won't attract her..same for women after men etc.

I wasn't nailing it down. I was reporting what types of women responded best to the three options I was trying to achieve universal appeal with.

[Shannon]

Chaos, which Korine movies do you recommend?

SPRING BREAKERS -- F*cking love this movie. I left the theater thinking, "I don't know if I just watched the best movie of all time, or the sh*ttiest." Minutes later, my date turned to me and says: "I'm not sure what the hell I just watched, but I think I really liked it." Few years later, I can vouch for it's greatness.

Dope scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNoQ_bZL9P8 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTt-2H5SntE (Cinematic brilliance)

Ken Park: He didn't direct this one, but he wrote it. Really odd, but profound movie.

Gummo: Watch this one if you're brave.

EDIT: How the hell did I forget KIDS? That movie put both Harmony Korine and Larry Clark on the map. It's a bit... unconventional though.

Spring Breakers was fucked up. Totally. But some good parts.

[Shannon]

Shannon, when AM7 comes out, is it gonna be single stage or multi-stage? Or you don't know yet?

Expect mid to late 2018. It's gonna have to be multi stage unless he creates the SSGS technology (Super Set Goal Scripting which instructs the subconscious to program a certain part of the script after each goal has been completed. ASC will be done by the end of the year but he will have multiple releases so it will probably be finalized in April 2017 then will probably finish all the single stage programs on his list by July 2017 the will start AM7 using his experience.

Hey man,
Where did you get this timeline, or is it just a rough questimate? Don´t mean to be d**k, just wondering since I have often seen on this forum members just throwing some wild figures and later Shannon quoting them with something along the lines of "Where did you get that? I never said..."
If Shannon has given somewhere that timeline, cool...if not then there is no reason for giving possibly false hopes for people....

Guesstimations. And I think Shannon said that ASC would be created 9-12 months from January and AM7 would be finished late 2017. I don't believe in these figures but all in all I think AM7 will come out after 2018 due to the fact that Shannonshe estimated creation time for a 6G sub will be long and he still has to create a skeleton script for the 6G model.

Then tell people that it's a guestimation, don't make it sound like you're speaking established fact.

[Shannon]

Shannon, just wondering, if I eventually switched to E2, would the momentum of E2 components in MSI carry over?

Yes.

I know you said they are tweaked, but just wondering if them E2 components are so tweaked it's like starting a complete new script?

No.

Also in MSI is the OGSF only directed towards GSF of the main goals of the program or is it possible for it to touch on areas outside of the goals of the program? Not sure how much OGSF is "guided".

It's the exact same scripting, word for word, as in E2.

[Shannon]

Really Chaosvrgn? Yes obviously you disagree and that's cool. But starting to attack members by calling them retards, stupid ass and comapring them to Elliot Rogers isn't.

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I never called anyone a "retard" -- that word isn't any of my posts. It's not a word I use because I have a cousin that's mentally challenged and he's had to deal with that his entire life. I said the view that black men are stealing up all the white women is "stupid ass" not the actual person. But I'm going to be real and honest here: Yeah, I'm a bit on edge and went hard. Why? Am I the only person watching the news?

I ain't on some SJW "safe spaces" nonsense and I don't believe in censorship, but there's nowhere a black man can go to avoid listening to a bunch of BS. Can't ever read the comments of ANY website without hearing a bunch of nonsense about black people ruining someone's life.

Crime in America? Black people. Welfare? Black people (despite the fact that statistics show that it's a pretty even split between the races). And then, I come here, thinking this is a community of rather enlightened people and what do I see?

The black bogeymen are stealing up all the women. Really? If black people fail -- society says we suck. If black people win -- society says we suck. If we get money -- we suck. If we get women -- we suck. At a certain point, you get tired of seeing it, so you start telling people to STFU and deal with their problems, because that's what Black America's being told all the time.

"This is a post-racial society, if you can't make it, it's because you suck. STOP BEING A VICTIM!"
- America

Meanwhile, people are sneaking online talking about how black people suck and are stealing up all the women. And we see and hear this everyday, and if we dare say something, it's "omg chaosvrgn, why are you so mad?!?!?!?!" Or, how about a few pages later on this thread when the guy claimed that only "aggressive white women" are into black men. In other words, low quality and undesirable. The soft and demure women would NEVER go for a black man. Hate to tell you, I've been with many white women, and very few of them were "aggressive," but whatever.

I'm at a place in my life where I cannot stand by and just calmly listen to such nonsense. But I'm a businessman, I get it: this is a company, one that cannot allow the #angryblackman to run off people, regardless of how ridiculous their views are. I do have to question why me saying "stupid ass" is so offensive, but no one blinks at the claim that black men only attracts "aggressive white women." But I get it, yada yada freezed peach.

So, I'll watch my words in the future, keep it on the more civil side, but I'm not making any promises of being silent in the face of those kinda comments. And if that means you've gotta fire me as a client and/or eject me from the community, then I guess that's just the natural order of things.

Chaos, I understand why you're angry. I don't understand it from the point of view of an angry black man, having not had your experiences. But I can see that what you have spoken about represents genuine and repeated injustice. However, we are trying to be a community. If you voice your concerns, please do so in accordance with the rules. Instead of directing your anger at people, do what I do. If you must, write a post blasting the hell out of them, get it out, and then erase that and write one that is civil.

But please understand this is a community, and we want everyone to try to value everyone else's position and opinion. No matter what we think of it. I certainly don't agree with everyone on everything, and sometimes I think some of the things I read on here qualify for the Darwin award. Sometimes, I even disagree with you, although I have never thought you deserved the Darwin award. But I still treat you with respect, partly because you're a customer, but also partly because I am following forum rules, and partly because I respect you for various other reasons.

If out of nothing else, please respect the rules. Civil debate is always more effective anyway, since your opponents in the debate will be more willing to listen to what you have to say and consider it.

[sawell54]

Anybody noticing increased luck on dmsi? maybe its coincidences

What have you noticed as far as increased luck?? Could you give some examples?

finding money randomly, a older white woman gave me 10 bucks for giving her directions to a small convenience store, a girl i havent met in months aggressively a made date with me on fb even after she said no to me asking for her # on fb weeks ago randomly messaged me Friday and aggressively made a date with me, another girl i gave up on randomly texted me, women are contacting me online more.. it might just be a coincidence