Shannon's Journal Discussion

[JackOfHearts]

Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid89452

[Nox]

freak out defintion from various source:
Slang.
-a person who has withdrawn from normal, rational behavior and activities to pursue one interest or obsession:
freak out, Slang.
-to enter into or cause a period of irrational behavior or emotional instability, as under the influence of a drug:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freak--out

1. to shock or disorient someone
2. to panic, to lose control

Freak Out
To achieve a state in which emotions like stress and worry are amplified. Commonly associated with OCD, deadlines, and middle aged women. Sometimes 'Freak'.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...reak%20out

freak out
vb (adverb)
informal to be or cause to be in a heightened emotional state, such as that of fear, anger, or excitement
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/freak+out

Terry44, if you think fear is useful for human then don't use
every sub that contain ogsf. This was already discussed a lot of time before and well explain by Shannon.
here :
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid89452

I said there was appropriate and inappropriate fear. If you destroyed ALL fear, you would live a dangerous life. And as those definitions show, being freaked out can be feeling uncomfortable and disorientated without necessarily being scared.

If you destroyed ALL fear you'd be a god among men.

[SargeMaximus]

Sexy is sexy dude. Think if it as cross training. If your endurance is at a point where you're able to go all out for three rounds in the ring, you're probably going to have decent ability to do other cardio based activities. Its just normal bleed over. You're want the best of sexiness that sexiness is going to spread out to men even if it is primarily focused on women. Even if it is a gay repellant they're going to still like you. Price of attraction.

Totally agree. It's like if you have a skill that is highly valued on the job market. Every company will be trying to get you, even the ones you don't like. Doesn't mean you have to work for them.

[terry44]

Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

[terry44]

Sexy is sexy dude. Think if it as cross training. If your endurance is at a point where you're able to go all out for three rounds in the ring, you're probably going to have decent ability to do other cardio based activities. Its just normal bleed over. You're want the best of sexiness that sexiness is going to spread out to men even if it is primarily focused on women. Even if it is a gay repellant they're going to still like you. Price of attraction.

Totally agree. It's like if you have a skill that is highly valued on the job market. Every company will be trying to get you, even the ones you don't like. Doesn't mean you have to work for them.

I suppose there is a difference between an attraction sub and a sexiness sub. The attraction sub could be directed at women or even specific types of women, but sexiness is more general.

[JackOfHearts]

Sexiness come from sex, and attraction is more related to interest so its not necessarily sexual.

[JackOfHearts]

Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

[SouthPaw]

It won't be something like "I now make myself not sexy for men" but rather something similar to what's already in the BIA...subs. And yes there is still a lot of attention from men, gay and not gay. Now, just imagine that wasn't there...

I don't know why you guys are turning it into a fear thing. That's irrelevant. We could also turn it into a shame thing or any other emotion.

It's basically annoying and a waste, not to mention many won't like it.

[terry44]

Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

That would be true if you could avoid all danger with rational thought, but you can't. If a mad dog or crazy human attacked you in a completely unpredictable way, for example, the fear would produce hormones that could save your life. They would give you much greater strength and energy to fight or run away. Without fear you would be at a great disadvantage in that situation.

[JackOfHearts]

It won't be something like "I now make myself not sexy for men" but rather something similar to what's already in the BIA...subs. And yes there is still a lot of attention from men, gay and not gay. Now, just imagine that wasn't there...

I don't know why you guys are turning it into a fear thing. That's irrelevant. We could also turn it into a shame thing or any other emotion.

It's basically annoying and a waste, not to mention many won't like it.

We turn it into a fear thing because a lot guys has fear related to homosexuality, I had some myself and I may still have some. The main reason there is a statement to remove attention from men is because some user asked for it, it wasn't supposed to be here in the first place.

Aos in 4g doesn't seem to contain it by the way. So those afraid by homosexual shouldn't use aos 4G otherwise they may get unwanted attention and a fear response as a result which shouldn't kill them by the way. The result at worse would be some user complaining here that they attracted a gay man and we would have to help him saying "it is alright you will survive"

[SargeMaximus]

It won't be something like "I now make myself not sexy for men" but rather something similar to what's already in the BIA...subs. And yes there is still a lot of attention from men, gay and not gay. Now, just imagine that wasn't there...

I don't know why you guys are turning it into a fear thing. That's irrelevant. We could also turn it into a shame thing or any other emotion.

It's basically annoying and a waste, not to mention many won't like it.

I agree, the fear thing is irrelevant to this topic. However, as was already pointed out: you can't stop gay guys being attracted to you. Being more attractive to women will make you more attractive to gays simple as that.

Where fear cones in is if you actually believe that attraction will end up somehow making you f*ck a guy. That's just irrational and definitely a fear and, IMO, points to a suppressed sexuality.

[terry44]

It won't be something like "I now make myself not sexy for men" but rather something similar to what's already in the BIA...subs. And yes there is still a lot of attention from men, gay and not gay. Now, just imagine that wasn't there...

I don't know why you guys are turning it into a fear thing. That's irrelevant. We could also turn it into a shame thing or any other emotion.

It's basically annoying and a waste, not to mention many won't like it.

I agree, the fear thing is irrelevant to this topic. However, as was already pointed out: you can't stop gay guys being attracted to you. Being more attractive to women will make you more attractive to gays simple as that.

Where fear cones in is if you actually believe that attraction will end up somehow making you f*ck a guy. That's just irrational and definitely a fear and, IMO, points to a suppressed sexuality.

That would be extremely irrational, but feeling uncomfortable when someone you don't find attractive is attracted to you is quite normal. I've felt something similar with women I find very unattractive. That's why I like the idea of BIATBW: it's nicely targeted.

[Darkness]

It won't be something like "I now make myself not sexy for men" but rather something similar to what's already in the BIA...subs. And yes there is still a lot of attention from men, gay and not gay. Now, just imagine that wasn't there...

I don't know why you guys are turning it into a fear thing. That's irrelevant. We could also turn it into a shame thing or any other emotion.

It's basically annoying and a waste, not to mention many won't like it.

I agree, the fear thing is irrelevant to this topic. However, as was already pointed out: you can't stop gay guys being attracted to you. Being more attractive to women will make you more attractive to gays simple as that.

Where fear cones in is if you actually believe that attraction will end up somehow making you f*ck a guy. That's just irrational and definitely a fear and, IMO, points to a suppressed sexuality.

Homosexual are wired to be attracted to men . If you become attractive EVERYONE is going to react. Some reactions you are not going to like. As heterosexual I dislike it , i also the one buying a program that brings out my sex appeal. All living things respond to energy .

[JackOfHearts]

Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

That would be true if you could avoid all danger with rational thought, but you can't. If a mad dog or crazy human attacked you in a completely unpredictable way, for example, the fear would produce hormones that could save your life. They would give you much greater strength and energy to fight or run away. Without fear you would be at a great disadvantage in that situation.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1538-p...l#pid25529

I can't find the right quote but Shannon mention somewhere that the fear is removed but the instinct or reflex is still there. So in the case you mention you would still be be able to do what you have done or something like that I don't remember.