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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Have at ye - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 05:45 AM)Infinite Wrote: I actually treated her the way that you just suggested. I see it as having treated as if she was beneath me because of the way that I was raised to treat people. I was taught to be really polite, to be nice even to people who hated me and mistreated me. Thanks for sharing your point of view, it helps me to see it for what it really is.

I oftentimes do the very same thing.

Some people may be impolite, aggresive, etc., because they're scared, having a bad day or something, and the it's very much fine to respond by trying to show them some love. They will really appreciate it.

Others use such behavior as a power play, and these types of folks won't respond to positive stimulus like a "sane" person would - in my experience, it'll only make them see you as an "easy mark". So the most practical approach is, I believe, the "you are beneath me" approach. They may fume and try to "show you your place" in response, but sooner or later they will respond by accepting the fact that you are the dominant side in the interaction - and either try to avoid you, or try to suck up (I'm not kidding, it's pretty disgusting when it happens Big Grin). It's how many people seem to be wired. It's typical "social climber" type of stuff: crap all over those who you perceive as having less power, and suck up to those who you perceive as having more power. In my line of work, people often become indoctrinated to act like this.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarthXedonias - 02-19-2019

Whoa, anyone else getting lots of SQL errors when trying to access the site?

Also @Shannon are we to expect a release for LTU 5.0 later today?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 02-19-2019

Cant wait for the stronger auric shield Shannon developed to be added into the next DMSI. Haters increasing but they can't/won't do anything. But I still catch myself getting pissed off/anxious about them though.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 02-19-2019

Agree with above. Haters definitely increasing.


(02-19-2019, 02:11 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: Whoa, anyone else getting lots of SQL errors when trying to access the site?

Also @Shannon are we to expect a release for LTU 5.0 later today?

Yes it’s been like that for a few days for me too.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Infinite - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 10:29 AM)Have at ye Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 05:45 AM)Infinite Wrote: I actually treated her the way that you just suggested. I see it as having treated as if she was beneath me because of the way that I was raised to treat people. I was taught to be really polite, to be nice even to people who hated me and mistreated me. Thanks for sharing your point of view, it helps me to see it for what it really is.

I oftentimes do the very same thing.

Some people may be impolite, aggresive, etc., because they're scared, having a bad day or something, and the it's very much fine to respond by trying to show them some love. They will really appreciate it.

Others use such behavior as a power play, and these types of folks won't respond to positive stimulus like a "sane" person would - in my experience, it'll only make them see you as an "easy mark". So the most practical approach is, I believe, the "you are beneath me" approach. They may fume and try to "show you your place" in response, but sooner or later they will respond by accepting the fact that you are the dominant side in the interaction - and either try to avoid you, or try to suck up (I'm not kidding, it's pretty disgusting when it happens Big Grin). It's how many people seem to be wired. It's typical "social climber" type of stuff: crap all over those who you perceive as having less power, and suck up to those who you perceive as having more power. In my line of work, people often become indoctrinated to act like this.


You're right, it's not a one size fits all. I wrote on my latest journal about showing love to a girl who was being standoffish to me, because I got the impression that she was just masking her own low self esteem and insecurities. If she treats me the same way again, then treating her with love again will not be the best option for me.

The woman that treated me badly at the dinner actually used me as a scape goat in front of over a hundred people. Her husband was having an affair with a woman, and the two of them were having a love fest in front of everyone. She was very uncomfortable because of it. I had to get up from my seat, and when I came back, she acted like I was the source of her discomfort by acting like she was so uncomfortable to have to sit next to me. I actually felt so much sympathy for her having to be in that position, even after she mistreated me. Once I got on the subs, and I lost that fear of women, I also lost that sympathy for her because I realized that she had a lot of nerve and I did not deserve to be treated that way.

This is a woman who is used to being treated like she is special, so I would have treated her nicely just like everybody else does. I think that being on dmsi empowered me to not need her approval or fear repercussions from her friends. I didn't care if she knew that I didn't favor her like everyone else probably just pretend to. lol


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 10:29 AM)Have at ye Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 05:45 AM)Infinite Wrote: I actually treated her the way that you just suggested. I see it as having treated as if she was beneath me because of the way that I was raised to treat people. I was taught to be really polite, to be nice even to people who hated me and mistreated me. Thanks for sharing your point of view, it helps me to see it for what it really is.

I oftentimes do the very same thing.

Some people may be impolite, aggresive, etc., because they're scared, having a bad day or something, and the it's very much fine to respond by trying to show them some love. They will really appreciate it.

Others use such behavior as a power play, and these types of folks won't respond to positive stimulus like a "sane" person would - in my experience, it'll only make them see you as an "easy mark". So the most practical approach is, I believe, the "you are beneath me" approach. They may fume and try to "show you your place" in response, but sooner or later they will respond by accepting the fact that you are the dominant side in the interaction - and either try to avoid you, or try to suck up (I'm not kidding, it's pretty disgusting when it happens Big Grin). It's how many people seem to be wired. It's typical "social climber" type of stuff: crap all over those who you perceive as having less power, and suck up to those who you perceive as having more power. In my line of work, people often become indoctrinated to act like this.

The aggressive dudes I referred to in the night club example (I haven’t gone to night clubs for years, and haven’t had any problems like this since) are coming from a place of ‘I need to impress women with toughness and superiority, because otherwise they won’t like me’.

We are told nonstop (by scientists, PUA, Hollywood, etc) that women only like ‘genetically superior’ guys (with power and social status) and sex is only about reproduction, and that women exist entirely to get pregnant by ‘genetically superior’ guys. So it is understandable why some guys, at an old night club, were acting the way they were acting, and starting fights with guys to show that they are ‘genetically superior’. These guys were doing it to get laid / pick up chicks.

I believed the same BS too about women only wanting sex with ‘genetically superior’ guys, and I used to get so depressed because I was the lowest (social status) in my old circle of friends, and was their ‘butt monkey’ (think Meg Griffin from Family Guy) that they used to constantly make fun of to impress others.

I dumped those friends a few years back, except for two of them, who have outgrown the ‘put others down to impress chicks’ crap. I also learned that night clubs are full of insecure people, and I avoid them since I have too much self-esteem / self-respect to intentionally go to places that guys will pick fights with you just to impress some superficial, shallow chick(s).

Modern society also tells us BS such as you must lockdown / control your partner, because ‘genetically superior’ guys will take them away from you, and women are hypergamous. And that women cheat nonstop, etc. and women will leave you for guys with the most power / social status, because they are hypergamous, etc.

No wonder big, muscular guys go around in nightclubs and intentionally pick fights wih other guys, and constantly try act dominant and ‘genetically superior’. They obviously have internalised the ‘genetically superior’ paradigm(s) that modern society parrots nonstop.

I also found out about AYP / manifestation within the last few years, which places serious doubts about the ‘women only have sex wifh genetically superior guys’ paradigm that has been repeated to me my whole life. If a person can manifest sex using a subliminal, than logically the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ paradigm must be wrong and flawed. If most guys can attract sex partner(s) with AYP / manifestation, then the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ paradigm starts to break down and fall apart.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 12:08 AM)MasterEnki Wrote: Edit: Never mind.

Had some questions about 6G. But maybe I should wait until 6G is fully developed before asking them.


Edit 2: Might as well ask them,

Will the manifestation times in 6G be similar to previous generations of subs?

How long will manifestation (MYP 6G) take in 6G on average?

How far back (in time) will TID from 6G be?

How long break will be needed (to avoid turbulence) between 6G programs?

Will you be upgrading every single 3G, 4G and 5G program to 6G, or just the more ‘essential’ ones?

You seem to want to come up with 1000 questions about AYP stuff, seems like similar questions all the time.

Shannon can't answer those questions seeing 6g isn't developed fully yet.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 02:11 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: Whoa, anyone else getting lots of SQL errors when trying to access the site?

Also @Shannon are we to expect a release for LTU 5.0 later today?

It's not just you, Cyanide is going to take a look at it.

I don't think LTU will be out today.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - dissonance - 02-19-2019

Hey Shannon, I was just wondering, can you possibly release a DMSI 3.3.1-C sometime (or whatever version is the one with FRM and H&C)? I know you said H&C isn't needed to execute, but what if there are people who executed to a level they are satisfied already, and want to benefit from the VERY powerful and beneficial H&C at the same time WHILE increasing effects of and heading toward possibly permanently solidifying the Sexual Irresistibility part of DMSI?

Like for me, I liked the effects of 3.2a's healing, and I wanted to switch to E3 for that reason. However, if there was a 3.3.1-C with H&C, I could have both worlds at the same time, rather than having to choose one over the other. Would you consider doing this? I'm thinking I'm not the only person with this perspective.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 02-19-2019

Most likely not, Shannon has said that the goal is to not need H&C anymore. It's in E3 because the goal of E3 is specifically for healing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - EvolvingPhoenix - 02-19-2019

What's H&C?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Paul1131 - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 03:10 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.

I’ve worked security at a couple of clubs. I’ll let you in on a little secret. The VAST majority of those meatheads who run around starting fights with smaller guys can’t fight worth a crap.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 02-19-2019

(02-19-2019, 06:12 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 03:10 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.

I’ve worked security at a couple of clubs. I’ll let you in on a little secret. The VAST majority of those meatheads who run around starting fights with smaller guys can’t fight worth a crap.

Good. They’ll be easy to take down once I learn self defence then.