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DMSI v5.1 - Tyler103Durden - 10-13-2025
DMSI v5.1
Using DMSI_v5p1_HDA_6G_Ultrasonic_Subliminal_35_Min_(Silent).flac
Starting loops now. Volume set to 11 clicks playing via VLC on cellphone. Using ultrasonic as that is what the instructions mention.
Stupid Question: Why does volume matter if the track is silent and how can I tell that I am actually hearing it?
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Frankie - 10-13-2025
https://subliminal-shop.com/pages/glossary
Format Wrote:Ultrasonic format is made by using a technique called "pitch differencing", which takes the audio to be made subliminal and adjusts its pitch until it is too high for the conscious mind to make sense of, but the subconscious can still comprehend it.
Ultrasonic Wrote:Sound which is above the range of normal human hearing. There is a small window of the low ultrasonic which can be used to make a sound perceptible to the subconscious while the conscious cannot tell what it is. This area is used to subliminalize the script audio of an ultrasonic subliminal to make it subliminal. Technically, that creates a "supraliminal" (above the threshold) instead of a "subliminal" (below the threshold), but most people know it as a "subliminal".
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/speaker-test
Quote:This file is designed to help you determine whether or not your speakers meet the minimum requirements for playing our ultrasonic subliminals, which require a minimum upper frequency response of 20 kHz from your speakers.
If you can play this 30 second file all the way through and hear the sound rise in pitch through the whole 30 seconds without hearing statc, crackling, or anything but the sound (or apparent silence, as most people will hear after about the 20 second mark), your speakers pass muster for playing the ultrasonic subliminal formatted tracks.
Personally I'm sticking with this one:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1170749-REG/apple_mkh02ll_a_16gb_ipod_touch_gold.html
Audio Playback Wrote:Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Tyler103Durden - 10-15-2025
DMSI v5.1
Day 2 - 4 loops of 35min using ultrasonic w/ 11 clicks volume and max volume on VLC. 5 on 1 off.
Not sure if the volume on VLC matters as its not stated in the instruction, however wanted to ensure it was playing as ultrasonic is silent. I can hear a faint noise when holding the phone very close to my head.
I am beginning to feel slight heat eminating from my skull and chest.
Nothing major to report yet.
In regard to the things that must be avoided:
Artificial pheromones -> stopped
Drugs -> none
Alcohol -> stopped
nicotine -> stopped
caffeine -> stopped (including morning coffee)
shower schedule -> trying to accomplish every third day, however this is the most difficult as I workout daily and the only days this feel attainable are the days I work from home. I am hybrid home/office.
How important is the every third day rule, especially if I am using traditional shower products and deodorant (Dr. Squatch).
What are the affects if any of the non-prescription stuff are used breifly either before or after the loops but not during?
Basically, I want to ensure I follow the directions as accurately as possible.
Appreciate any feedback and will continue to update as I keep pushing. I have a strong feeling MAJOR progress and execution will be made with this version after not accomplishing the script goals of previous DMSIs.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - ncbeareatingman - 10-15-2025
(10-15-2025, 07:47 AM)Tyler103Durden Wrote: DMSI v5.1
Day 2 - 4 loops of 35min using ultrasonic w/ 11 clicks volume and max volume on VLC. 5 on 1 off.
Not sure if the volume on VLC matters as its not stated in the instruction, however wanted to ensure it was playing as ultrasonic is silent. I can hear a faint noise when holding the phone very close to my head.
I am beginning to feel slight heat eminating from my skull and chest.
Nothing major to report yet.
In regard to the things that must be avoided:
Artificial pheromones -> stopped
Drugs -> none
Alcohol -> stopped
nicotine -> stopped
caffeine -> stopped (including morning coffee)
shower schedule -> trying to accomplish every third day, however this is the most difficult as I workout daily and the only days this feel attainable are the days I work from home. I am hybrid home/office.
How important is the every third day rule, especially if I am using traditional shower products and deodorant (Dr. Squatch).
What are the affects if any of the non-prescription stuff are used breifly either before or after the loops but not during?
Basically, I want to ensure I follow the directions as accurately as possible.
Appreciate any feedback and will continue to update as I keep pushing. I have a strong feeling MAJOR progress and execution will be made with this version after not accomplishing the script goals of previous DMSIs.
"It's only after we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything."
My reply:
"When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose! You're invisible now, you've no secrets conceal" - Jimi Hendrix singing Bob Dylan's " Like a rolling stone " at the Montery pop festival 1967
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Shannon - 10-15-2025
(10-13-2025, 04:02 PM)Tyler103Durden Wrote: DMSI v5.1
Using DMSI_v5p1_HDA_6G_Ultrasonic_Subliminal_35_Min_(Silent).flac
Starting loops now. Volume set to 11 clicks playing via VLC on cellphone. Using ultrasonic as that is what the instructions mention.
Stupid Question: Why does volume matter if the track is silent and how can I tell that I am actually hearing it?
Volume matters because it determines the part and or level of the subconscious most reactive to the audio. The track is not silent, but an adult can usually not hear the ultrasonic audio, so we call it "silent". You can tell you are hearing it by getting results, or by testing the volume of the audio on a volumetric playback meter. For example, part of how I do quality control checks is to load it into Reaper (which I use to make it) and then play it and observe the volume meter for each channel. This will tell me if the audio is correct. You can use Audacity for this also. Spectral analysis will also reveal the pitch by volume.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Shannon - 10-15-2025
(10-15-2025, 07:47 AM)Tyler103Durden Wrote: DMSI v5.1
Day 2 - 4 loops of 35min using ultrasonic w/ 11 clicks volume and max volume on VLC. 5 on 1 off.
Not sure if the volume on VLC matters as its not stated in the instruction, however wanted to ensure it was playing as ultrasonic is silent. I can hear a faint noise when holding the phone very close to my head.
I am beginning to feel slight heat eminating from my skull and chest.
Nothing major to report yet.
In regard to the things that must be avoided:
Artificial pheromones -> stopped
Drugs -> none
Alcohol -> stopped
nicotine -> stopped
caffeine -> stopped (including morning coffee)
shower schedule -> trying to accomplish every third day, however this is the most difficult as I workout daily and the only days this feel attainable are the days I work from home. I am hybrid home/office.
How important is the every third day rule, especially if I am using traditional shower products and deodorant (Dr. Squatch).
What are the affects if any of the non-prescription stuff are used breifly either before or after the loops but not during?
Basically, I want to ensure I follow the directions as accurately as possible.
Appreciate any feedback and will continue to update as I keep pushing. I have a strong feeling MAJOR progress and execution will be made with this version after not accomplishing the script goals of previous DMSIs.
You cannot use this unless you're playing it from your phone. Avoid player apps that have volume controls inside the app itself because then you have two volume settings and I have no way to specify what the correct volume is anymore.
You also absolutely cannot use it at any volume other than that specified in the instructions and expect it to work. You're doing what a lot of people new to ultrasonic subliminals do, you're trying to max out the volume because you think it's not going to work otherwise since you cannot hear it consciously. Maxing out the volume will produce the effect of having the instructions screamed at your subconscious by the equivalent of an insane drill sergeant who is pushing too hard, and you will get poor results at best, and at worst, you'll get either reverse resistance or start experiencing severe headaches as your subconscious seeks to do ANYTHING to get the screaming to stop.
Quote:How important is the every third day rule, especially if I am using traditional shower products and deodorant (Dr. Squatch).
It is helpful to maximize your pheromonal output without smelling bad.
Quote:What are the affects if any of the non-prescription stuff are used breifly either before or after the loops but not during?
That depends on what you're referring to. Anything that alters your brainwave state is going to degrade or destroy the effects of the subliminal's state shifting and autopilot scripting.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Tyler103Durden - 10-16-2025
Thank you for the insight Shannon.
I am going to treat this post as my Day 1 after understanding the VLC app mistake. I am listening on ultrasonic 11 clicks and playing the file directly from my files app (where it landed directly after download).
Day 1: 4 loops 35min each
Do the loops need to be run concurrent or is just 4 total loops through the day?
Appreciate the help.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - 4Kingdoms - 10-16-2025
(10-16-2025, 06:01 PM)Tyler103Durden Wrote: Do the loops need to be run concurrent or is just 4 total loops through the day?Concurrent.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Benjamin - 10-16-2025
Are you using vlc on your phone?
I use it on a samsung and haven't been aware of it having a seperate volume for the app. On pc it does, but the phone app seems to use the phone volume.
Yes you want to do all the loops at one time, breaking it up over the day won't have the same effect.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Tyler103Durden - 10-17-2025
@Benjamin I was using VLC to play the track in order to loop it w/o monitoring the 35mins. I would keep the volume at 11 clicks on my iPhone and then the volume would be all the way up on the VLC, as I just didnt know how to use it w/ the instructions laid out so @Shannon said not to go that route so I started last night w/ only using the 11 clicks and playing the file from my file folder without using the VLC.
@4Kingdoms Thank you, I run it concurrently.
Day 2: Did my 35min 4 loops subliminal via the phone audio at 11 clicks. I have had two moments through the day after listening where I have walked out of my office to be alone and have a mild mental breakdown and cry. A grown man tearing up, wtf is that about. Either way will continue on Sunday as Saturday is my 1 day off as I want to maintain the 5 on 1 off even through the first three days where kind of played incorrectly. IF I should consider today as Day 2 and then go another 3 days and then take my 1 day break, please let me know. Thanks.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Frankie - 10-18-2025
I thought that either "continuous" or "consecutive" would be more appropriate for running 4 loops in series, while "concurrent" would sound closer to 4 identical tracks in parallel.
I wouldn't touch VLC for iOS with a ten-foot pole unless we're a such a "big fan" of Murphy's Law:
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc-ios/-/blob/master/Documentation/NEWS.md
Quote:playback: fix use of volume/brightness gesture options
- Improve volume and brightness gestures sensibility especially on iPad
- Fixed the swiping Gestures to change brightness and Volume
- vertical swipe in the right half of the video to adapt volume
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc-ios/-/merge_requests/747
Other than that, always make sure that we do NOT have this stuff called "Volume Limit" enabled:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/guide/iphone/iphb71f9b54d/ios
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Tyler103Durden - 10-20-2025
Day 3: (Sun) Nothing worth noting.
Day 4: Same
Not sure if it’s the lack of caffeine and no other substances all at once but felt very irritable the last few days. Had a feeling today of oh what’s the point maybe I should just stop. Decided the push through. More emotional the last few days. Dreams are coming back however and more vivid.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Shannon - 10-21-2025
(10-18-2025, 11:14 PM)Frankie Wrote: I thought that either "continuous" or "consecutive" would be more appropriate for running 4 loops in series, while "concurrent" would sound closer to 4 identical tracks in parallel.
I wouldn't touch VLC for iOS with a ten-foot pole unless we're a such a "big fan" of Murphy's Law:
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc-ios/-/blob/master/Documentation/NEWS.md
Quote:playback: fix use of volume/brightness gesture options
- Improve volume and brightness gestures sensibility especially on iPad
- Fixed the swiping Gestures to change brightness and Volume
- vertical swipe in the right half of the video to adapt volume
https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc-ios/-/merge_requests/747
Other than that, always make sure that we do NOT have this stuff called "Volume Limit" enabled:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/guide/iphone/iphb71f9b54d/ios
You want to play the loops consecutively, not concurrently. Running them concurrently will destroy the subliminal audio by making it impossible for your brain to decipher and comprehend what is being said.
RE: DMSI v5.1 - Tyler103Durden - 10-22-2025
Day 5: Nothing to report
I meant continuous not concurrent. I run them one after another until they are all complete.
4 loops at 35min each ultrasonic 11 clicks played through iPhone.