(09-07-2020, 03:03 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: Oh boy where to begin with this. Lots and lots of changes and I have to think of most of them since I haven't felt the need to post any of this. I'm only doing so now because (1) I have plenty of time to do so, (2) It might help out some people by reading this and possibly give some hope to those still resisting, and (3) It might not be best to get results then just disappear like some forum members have done in the past. I do admit I was very resistant to this due to this idea I have now that I rather not focus on past victories when there are still more victories to come. 

- Fear is pretty much completely destroyed and even times when I would "almost" feel that emotion it only takes me a second to say "nah" and dismissed whatever I might have tried to be fearful of. 

- I would say before that my general sense of well being before the breakthru was probably fluctuating between a 1 and a 4 based on how bad the PTSD might be that day. Now, I would say I fluctuate between an 8 and a 10. I reach a 10 at least once a day as it is, a kind of high on life type feeling. Other times its just a relaxed calm happiness and confidence. A very grounded feeling.

- I don't give a crap about calling people on their BS to their faces. I've actually already done this to several women automatically with little thought. For some reason I find it now "fun" to do this to people and see their reactions. I also don't mind blocking them when it gets stupid and just moving on to something else with my time. My time is more valuable than dealing with idiots. 

- Funny enough I actually enjoy texting people, etc a lot more or going outside. When I was very, very young I was actually quite outgoing to a degree and talkative. Only reason that changed was because of past situations which caused me to slowly withdraw emotionally and personally from engaging people. 

- A somewhat minor thing but shows a big shift in how I do things. I've been playing the Hitman 1 and 2 series the last couple of weeks. At the beginning I would look up how to efficiently do certain challenges and story quests for various stages. Now I don't even look them up anymore and just try to figure them out which can take quite a while and kind of have this huge resistance to looking up how to do them. This actually touched on a huge fear of mines: Fear of making mistakes. I think this fear kept me from trying lots of things in the first place unless I had detailed instructions or something to guide me so I wouldn't make mistakes. If I could or didn't feel confidant enough about the info I was given (or it was a field where it was impossible to move throughout without making mistakes) I would probably just not even try whatever it was. Essentially failing before the race even started. Now I don't give a crap if I make a lot of mistakes along the way and i have a persistence now to keep on trying until I get it. I don't want some easy way handed to me. 

- I deserve to live a life of luxury and deserve to sleep with hot women if I want to. More than anything I feel like I am destined for such a lifestyle. I "know" therefore that the new DMSI and UMS will work when they come out. 

Hmm now for me to touch on some things that have changed regarding my perception. Something I have found now (hopefully Shannon can offer some insight) is I have these moments where I think I access the part of my subconscious that perceives time differently. As in I will get these flashes (or if I'm concentrating on an aspect of the future) its like for a second or a few I will be fully immersed in this "future". As in it feels totally real as if I'm living it at that moment. I can only guess this is: (1) Me accessing a certain future through a part of my subconscious that perceives time radically differently from my own, (2) This is a "possible" future, or (3) I'm just getting very good at active manifestation. I have actually taken to meditating at times just to bring about these moments. Know this is going sound weird to some people (not that I give a crap really) but thought I should hopefully get some ideas on what this is. If its a part of my subconscious I'm accessing perhaps I became unafraid of accessing that part of myself. 

Another thing to mention is I feel like I'm ice cold to a degree. As in I feel positive emotions like I alluded to before but when people try to manipulate me like trying to present something so I feel pity for them so I try to help them out I feel none for them even if the situation is real. Probably because I'm able to sense they are using this real situation to manipulate me and despite how sad the situation might be I don't give a crap. Hmmm its like people can't manipulate me emotionally anymore nor do I care if I call them out on such subtle manipulation. I will tell them straight to their face and not "fear" if I offend them either (not that I'm saying it in some angry sort of way). 

So, I think that's it for now. Might write more later.

(09-07-2020, 03:31 AM)Yous Wrote: Hi. When did you start listening the program?

Quote: Dayuumm man tht superior. wow. what progress. no wonder you did feel like posting much lately. you were and are too busy LIVING it and experiencing it for such. glad ja did though. more power to ya in the coming weeks and months. I could see using OF for 18 months straight.....I've been on it since July 3rd or there abouts, when UMS2 finally comes out,I'll switch over,fortunately it will have FRM4.9 in it or 4.9.0 or 5.0 by then,either way the journey continues. Gawd are we some Luck Mfker's!! Ha! I swear we are soo fortunate. No therapist I know can give  us what this good sh^t does.... people could spend years 'on a couch' so to speak.....decades even...therapy is good and I recommend  damn good one,s but this things takes things to a whole new level.

 again more power to ya.... 

Quote:Hmm now for me to touch on some things that have changed regarding my perception. Something I have found now (hopefully Shannon can offer some insight) is I have these moments where I think I access the part of my subconscious that perceives time differently. As in I will get these flashes (or if I'm concentrating on an aspect of the future) its like for a second or a few I will be fully immersed in this "future". As in it feels totally real as if I'm living it at that moment. I can only guess this is: (1) Me accessing a certain future through a part of my subconscious that perceives time radically differently from my own, (2) This is a "possible" future, or (3) I'm just getting very good at active manifestation. I have actually taken to meditating at times just to bring about these moments. Know this is going sound weird to some people (not that I give a crap really) but thought I should hopefully get some ideas on what this is. If its a part of my subconscious I'm accessing perhaps I became unafraid of accessing that part of myself.

Quote:Another thing to mention is I feel like I'm ice cold to a degree. As in I feel positive emotions like I alluded to before but when people try to manipulate me like trying to present something so I feel pity for them so I try to help them out I feel none for them even if the situation is real. Probably because I'm able to sense they are using this real situation to manipulate me and despite how sad the situation might be I don't give a crap. Hmmm its like people can't manipulate me emotionally anymore nor do I care if I call them out on such subtle manipulation. I will tell them straight to their face and not "fear" if I offend them either (not that I'm saying it in some angry sort of way).

(09-08-2020, 07:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: I am impressed.  And I have long since believed...

FEAR IS A LIARRRRR!

Quote:Btw @Shannon There was one other thing I wanted to mention to you as a suggestion. Don't know if you already implemented this in some way and if you did it would explain some stuff. There is one specific event that I think was the catalyst for this metamorphosis but I'm not sure if it was the naturalizer, something in FRM, or perhaps it was something that my subconscious came up with in order to achieve the goals of the program at the behest of the program of course. I do need to ask something then i think it will segway into what I'm getting at. Ok I think you have established that there are lots of possible futures (if I'm understanding that part of your work to this point). Since there are lots of possible futures that would mean there are lots of different pasts that simply weren't manifested correct? You have made it clear with good reasons that you would never "manipulate" the past because that would cause obvious things like the butterfly effect. My question is what if you didn't actually manipulate the future but did something else? Is it possible for the subconscious to say find and concentrate on the past that would have led to full realization of the goals of the program and have current behaviors, beliefs, etc be based on that past? This way your not actually manipulating the past your simply having current behaviors, beliefs, be based on that one. Such a person would obviously still know what the actual manifested past was but choosing to "act" on the one that best serves the purposes of the program. Obviously this would have to be investigated to see if it would be safe to do in any possible way but thought I would suggest it.

I brought this up because this is sort of what happened one night I was listening to the sub. It was like I came up with this idea and focused on that kind of possible past that would have enabled full realization of the goals the of the program and basing my behavior, etc on them. I don't know if perhaps this was a particular case due to myself and my quite traumatized past so my subconscious realized this was the best way forward to achieve the goals of the program. Either way focusing on that seemed to have worked and this whole metamorphosis began because of it. Either way thought I would shed light on this. Who knows maybe you could have it work for FRM in a way by having the subconscious focus in on a past that lacks the fears that are holding the program back?

(09-10-2020, 09:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: The first thing I have to point out is that your frame of reference in this question assumes that "past, present and future" actually exist.  They do not.  They are all "now", but your awareness may or may not be focused through them.  This concept is very difficult to explain and grasp when you are so used to a reference defined as "past, present, future".  Literally speaking, the past is what you chose to experience, which your nervous system is not capable of dealing with all at once, so you remember and experience it as "the past", and you don't remember "the future" not because it "hasn't happened yet" but because it hasn't received the right focus to collapse it from superposition; thus, all possible futures are "remembered" and that overwhelms the parts of your awareness limited by their focus through your brain (nervous system), so you "don't remember" them.  

That's not even entirely accurate, it's more complex and in depth than that, but for the time being, that's the best I can do to explain it without writing a novel.  Hopefully it suffices.

Now the subliminal does not alter your past.  However, if you conclude at some level that altering your past is the only way to achieve the goal, or the best way, then there is nothing stopping you from doing so as its chosen method of achieving the program's goals.

(09-12-2020, 11:21 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote:

(09-10-2020, 09:30 AM)Shannon Wrote: The first thing I have to point out is that your frame of reference in this question assumes that "past, present and future" actually exist.  They do not.  They are all "now", but your awareness may or may not be focused through them.  This concept is very difficult to explain and grasp when you are so used to a reference defined as "past, present, future".  Literally speaking, the past is what you chose to experience, which your nervous system is not capable of dealing with all at once, so you remember and experience it as "the past", and you don't remember "the future" not because it "hasn't happened yet" but because it hasn't received the right focus to collapse it from superposition; thus, all possible futures are "remembered" and that overwhelms the parts of your awareness limited by their focus through your brain (nervous system), so you "don't remember" them.  

That's not even entirely accurate, it's more complex and in depth than that, but for the time being, that's the best I can do to explain it without writing a novel.  Hopefully it suffices.

Now the subliminal does not alter your past.  However, if you conclude at some level that altering your past is the only way to achieve the goal, or the best way, then there is nothing stopping you from doing so as its chosen method of achieving the program's goals.

Actually that post you made was quite informative and answered quite a few things I've been pondering the last few days. Does this mean essentially that we "created" Past, present, and future because : (1) as a kind of safety for us physically (nervous system as you mentioned can't handle all past, present, and futures at the same time), and (2) so the "conscious" mind can actually make sense of things? This kind of reminds me also of something touching on this concept in the second Matrix movie. The oracle had said: 

"You have already made the choice. Your just here to understand why you have made the choice". 

Wouldn't the whole no past, present or future thing also kind of lead to a type of determinism? As in you already know what is going to happen and already decided on how your going to react to those situations. So you still have free will but you kind of already made your choices I guess since the future isn't real. Hopefully it doesn't take too much out of your time to answer these as I feel like these are very important questions.

Quote:Updates: Things still going very much well. I think I am settling down to my new normal which I would feel my well being is still at a 7 or so but able to raise it on command if I want to. I am noticing some external differences as well. Way i react around people as if I don't care about their validation and in reaction to that people react with giving validation. Also had 2 women contact me on old dating profiles (have even more on my foreign profiles). Only thing is I really don't care. I really feel like neediness is based on fear because since all this has happened I have like zero neediness. Would having sex be nice I guess? Sure but I can be just as happy if it didn't happen either. My happiness isn't determined on whether I have lots of sex or not. Its because of this change and several others I'm pretty much fully confidant next DMSI will be work for me. Most of the issues that needed to be dealt with have been dealt with. Its funny now though. In the long term i'm more interested in running UMS than DMSI. DMSI I'm only going to be running to see how it works for me this time around and for a pleasant distraction. Other than that women aren't really high on my radar anymore. 

I'm more interested in stuff that is going to be for my long term benefit anyway. Also, "when" I get very wealthy I can have my pick of women anyway. So it really doesn't matter all that much. In other areas idk I feel like I have pretty much normalized the attributes from the sub to a degree. I do feel like I'm getting some subconscious bordem now but I will continue with this at least until the new DMSI comes out that's for sure. 

On a very important note though I think I finally realize something Shannon said before. Even though I think he said it in the context of going through "cycles" so I don't know if it can be applied to large portions of a person's life. Its funny only after I got cured of the PTSD and depression do I realize that I needed to go through experiencing that "reality". As I only came to certain conclusions and truths in that painful experience. I realized that had I just had a good upbringing and normal life at the beginning I would have just been another normie as it were. I realize that now. I also realize I won't be going back to that reality because I learned the lessons I needed to learn and I can learn nothing more from experiencing that. I have new lessons to learn and my goal is clear now on what I need to achieve in this life. Its quite interesting what a clear vision unimpeded by fear can do for you.

Quote:Out of curiosity, you say you got "cured of PTSD and depression".  How did that happen?  I'm not clear on that?

(09-13-2020, 02:50 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:

Quote:Out of curiosity, you say you got "cured of PTSD and depression".  How did that happen?  I'm not clear on that?

Oh it happened with that past changing event that I told you about. Thing is I don't know how to fully explain it as much. To be honest it doesn't even feel like past manipulation or anything. I can remember when I was concentrating on it that it felt more like I was pulling a different "me" from a past out of lots of different versions that felt more in line with the sub and would realize the goals of the program best. This is also why I said I hate using the word "formerly" with in regards to PTSD and depression because quite frankly to use your words when talking about the naturalizer "It feels as if I have always been this way". Granted, after your explanation makes me realize that this is still me just a different version with a totally different mentality which feels emotionally disconnected from the previous version if that makes sense. 

Also my memory its like I don't even try to remember certain things from that past, something tries to block me from remembering (similar to an event I had with E3 all those years ago), or I can't even remember certain things at all. Oh believe me if I met someone from my past I would remember them but it would probably "feel" like I have no emotional connection to them or certain memories. Almost as if those things happened to "someone else". 

@ShannonI would assume based on your explanation before that it is "theoretically" possible to pull a different version of you into the present correct? Because there is obviously a different version of "you" that made a totally different set of choices and you can choose to experience that different version in the present if I am understanding this correctly? If true I guess this means there is a safe way to change the past that doesn't devolve into some butterfly effect scenario. 

One thing I don't understand though is why did my old, old friend from the past have a dream about me when I did this and then felt compelled to reach out and find me. Maybe be I was back on his wave length to a degree because I have felt recently that even when talking to the same women I was somewhat interested in before that now I barely have any interest and don't feel as connected to them. Funny enough I had this thought go through my head several times that they "weren't good enough for me". Which I have never done before in a "certain" past.

(09-14-2020, 09:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: Basically, then, what you experienced was your consciousness choosing to shift from a probability line to a possibility line; what is most probable results from a probability line, but all things are "possible".  So, in order to accomplish the goals of the program, you chose a significant shift in what happened and perhaps even shifted to a different "reality" altogether.  

It is possible to jump from one line of events to a completely different line of events that was not directly connected to the originating line.  That is, from what I understand, how major shifts in reality are accomplished; those that people call things like "miracles".  If you shift from a reality in which a man dies and is laid out before you in a casket, to a reality in which the exact same casket and man are laid out, but the man never died - just chose to get into the casket - then it would appear to all present that the dead man "came back to life" if they all remembered his death. For example.

This sort of shift is exceedingly rare because it requires such advanced actions, but with the right set of goals and motivations, and perhaps a hint of the right choice of actions, it is possible for sufficiently experienced people to do.  It is said that true Masters can do things like that at will, consciously choosing to make them happen.

Once you're in the new reality, you'll be affected by it as you would expect to be at that point in the reality if you always existed there.  From the point of view of the new "reality", you suddenly shifted direction and changed, creating a disruption in the flow of that reality because of the influence of the old reality "being injected" as you "land" in the new reality.  It creates a split between the "you" who transitioned and the "you" who always experienced that reality, such that in one resulting path you continue without having "transitioned" and just experience the inertia of the reality because that "you" was always on it; and in another, the "transitioned you" jumps into this reality that is different, and it remembers some or all of the old reality, thus creating the potential for memory issues including confused double memories, no memories at all and others.

It isn't done very often because it's very difficult for most to do, even subconsciously.  But it is possible to do.