(07-11-2026, 05:23 AM)kserenyi Wrote:

(07-05-2026, 05:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: Running it for a month would help, but not the way you suggest.  You'll do much better to run it for 4 months.  Or run PRA v1/2 for a while.  

Pros of Stage 0: It has PTSD Recovery Aid, FRM, Brain Optimizer, etc. 
Cons: It is not designed to go in a direction that focuses on dealing with the things that would be holding you back.

If you have it, you can use it, but again... 4 months would be what I think would be necessary.  

If you have the option, PRA is almost certainly going to be a better choice because of what it focuses on.  And I'll have v2c ready shortly.

Would you say that the two month run of the non-complex PTSD Recovery Aid v2c would be enough for me?  Also, how long of a break should I take between this program and another run of UMS?  Thanks!

(07-11-2026, 06:53 AM)kserenyi Wrote: I've ordered the subscription option for PTSD Recovery Aid v2c.  However, it won't give options for the stream to listen too or duration, it shows that I've already had a long history of listening to the program, and it gives me the links to download the full program.

(07-10-2026, 05:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-10-2026, 03:21 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon, so the Fear Remover is EVEN STRONGER, more effective in PRA v2c  in 6.5 G,  than before???

FRM was "strong enough" to get the job done for almost everyone even in v1.0.  In v2c, it is being driven by a much more powerful engine, but that power isn't usually what's needed.  What's needed is a precisely balanced application of the FRM.  In v2c, FRM benefits from some additions to the skeleton script that make the job of FRM easier by making it easier for you to handle the process of healing.

So yes, it's stronger, and yes, it's more effective - but again... if you can do the job with 500 horsepower, then 2,330 horsepower isn't what's going to make the difference.  It's going to come down to how  finely machined and fitted the parts are that make it possible for that engine to deliver exactly the right amount of power required, and do so comfortably.

PRA v2c has this.

(07-10-2026, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-10-2026, 12:17 PM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I am wondering, in general, what changed in latest DMSI that is specifically for male now? I remember previously, you highlighted that its very difficult to make the script for male only and that DMSI script is built entirely to be non gender specific.

I am surprised to see the change was made. I am considering to start DMSI again.

I am complementing whether to use the old version 3.5 that before the male only,

I remember using male version one when it came out but I dont remember having good results overall

I believe what I said was that it was extremely difficult to make something that would work for everyone,without getting more specific.  The goal back then was specifically to make the program possible for both men and women to run.  But that forces me to compromise in terms of how certain things are implemented, which makes it less capable than it could be.

I concluded that:

A) The vast majority of women don't need help getting to sex;
B) The program needed to go further than it was going to achieve it's goals; and 
C) The only way to move forward meaningfully is to advance in a made-for-males-only direction.

I have not heard a lot of positive feedback regarding the 6G DMSI, which makes me think it's not working as well as I'd like it to... that, or nobody is reporting anything anymore.  I'm contemplating putting out a 6.5G version, but I'm not sure it's worth trying, given how hard everyone seems to fight the damned thing, no matter what I do.  I'm under the impression at this point that the people who it works for don't have the fears that kill it, and thus largely don't need (and therefore don't know about, don't buy or don't report on) it, and the people who need it are abjectly terrified of executing because they're absolutely convinced that it will literally get them killed to do so.

I am sure I can make it through that given 6.5G and what the FRM is capable of doing at this point (as revealed by PRA), but after all this time... is it worth continuing to try still?

(07-11-2026, 05:43 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2026, 02:42 PM)Catman Wrote: Hey @Shannon!

I have had another very serious issue in the family to deal with for a long time now...

Alongside an awful thing that happened to me just a short period before the run of this program. (V5.1)

However, I can say I do think it's done some work internally, and FRM/Trauma related stuff. 

I've had some extreme excavation in that department needed. Maybe demolition with Tsar Bomba quite probably...

So I can say, it SEEMS like things are trending in the right direction with V5.1 at least.

I can categorically say it IS worth it to release a new DMSI, with the new DRS you're planning soon inside it...that's needed intensely. I have odd issues with one person in particular that must be related to that. DRS needs some work to address that behaviour if possible. 

A new DMSI V6.1, if you will, would be amazing in 6.5G. Let's see what it can do. It's a great test of the new technology. Who knows, it may reveal some things to you to develop 6.6G or 6.75G etc., like AM7 has shown. Fascinating.

I hope you are doing well and giving yourself solid break time in between all of this work. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Good to hear from you again, and good to hear that it's putting a dent in Old Ironsides.  I'd prefer not to hear that you're having to deal with so much BS, but such is life, I suppose.

I spent a LONG time developing 6.0G because I was planning to build everything on a standard base, and then AAMTS v7 literally forced me to develop 6.5G or never release AAMTS again.  I'm not trying to develop the Skeleton Script into anything higher than 6.5G unless I see a genuine need to do that, and honestly, I have no ideas left for how to do that anyway.  So don't assume that the 6.xG development arc will follow the 5.xG development arc.  We have literally hit hard limits that cannot be exceeded at this point in a number of directions.  

The goal now is to get the library built out in 6.5G, so I can stop increasing the price and start providing a stable and homogenous library of great options for my customers.

I'd like to hear more about your experience and why you think it needs DRS.

(07-11-2026, 05:47 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2026, 05:23 AM)kserenyi Wrote: Would you say that the two month run of the non-complex PTSD Recovery Aid v2c would be enough for me?  Also, how long of a break should I take between this program and another run of UMS?  Thanks!

I'm not going to be able to predict that for you, as there are simply too many variables in play.  You are going to have to run it for whatever approach you choose and see what progress has been made in the end, and base your decisions on that.  But if you're trying to run PRA v2c to get to success with UMS, you're going to be doing some deep work, which I think would most likely require more than one run-through of PRA v2c.  Experiments with testers have shown that once PRA takes charge and starts making progress, it is easy to seriously derail if you stop the program too soon, and it takes a while to get back to where you were.  At least, that's what we observed with v1.

The issue seems to be the regenerative capacity that fear seems to have.  If it is dominated but not eliminated, then the root will just grow new shoots when the dominating subliminal influence is removed, as it were.

(07-11-2026, 05:49 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-11-2026, 06:53 AM)kserenyi Wrote: I've ordered the subscription option for PTSD Recovery Aid v2c.  However, it won't give options for the stream to listen too or duration, it shows that I've already had a long history of listening to the program, and it gives me the links to download the full program.

Thank you for reporting that.  I've done what should correct it.  Please let me know if it has not.

Ben, get this man a free month of that subscription for his honesty.

(07-11-2026, 10:33 PM)samba99 Wrote:

(07-10-2026, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: I believe what I said was that it was extremely difficult to make something that would work for everyone,without getting more specific.  The goal back then was specifically to make the program possible for both men and women to run.  But that forces me to compromise in terms of how certain things are implemented, which makes it less capable than it could be.

I concluded that:

A) The vast majority of women don't need help getting to sex;
B) The program needed to go further than it was going to achieve it's goals; and 
C) The only way to move forward meaningfully is to advance in a made-for-males-only direction.

I have not heard a lot of positive feedback regarding the 6G DMSI, which makes me think it's not working as well as I'd like it to... that, or nobody is reporting anything anymore.  I'm contemplating putting out a 6.5G version, but I'm not sure it's worth trying, given how hard everyone seems to fight the damned thing, no matter what I do.  I'm under the impression at this point that the people who it works for don't have the fears that kill it, and thus largely don't need (and therefore don't know about, don't buy or don't report on) it, and the people who need it are abjectly terrified of executing because they're absolutely convinced that it will literally get them killed to do so.

I am sure I can make it through that given 6.5G and what the FRM is capable of doing at this point (as revealed by PRA), but after all this time... is it worth continuing to try still?

(07-11-2026, 05:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: Good to hear from you again, and good to hear that it's putting a dent in Old Ironsides.  I'd prefer not to hear that you're having to deal with so much BS, but such is life, I suppose.

I spent a LONG time developing 6.0G because I was planning to build everything on a standard base, and then AAMTS v7 literally forced me to develop 6.5G or never release AAMTS again.  I'm not trying to develop the Skeleton Script into anything higher than 6.5G unless I see a genuine need to do that, and honestly, I have no ideas left for how to do that anyway.  So don't assume that the 6.xG development arc will follow the 5.xG development arc.  We have literally hit hard limits that cannot be exceeded at this point in a number of directions.  

The goal now is to get the library built out in 6.5G, so I can stop increasing the price and start providing a stable and homogenous library of great options for my customers.

I'd like to hear more about your experience and why you think it needs DRS.

I also believe that DRS is important, something about being attractive and high celebrity effect just needs protection to be honest.  

From my experience of both version 3.5 and the 5, I felt 3.5 was more complete and more enjoyable. 

I just started running version 3.5 again, because I wanted the DRS, 

Even though when I log into my store account I see that I have access to stream the DRS in 6g, (but I am not doing so since I didnt pay for streaming for long time now)

(07-12-2026, 05:11 AM)kserenyi Wrote:

(07-11-2026, 05:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: I'm not going to be able to predict that for you, as there are simply too many variables in play.  You are going to have to run it for whatever approach you choose and see what progress has been made in the end, and base your decisions on that.  But if you're trying to run PRA v2c to get to success with UMS, you're going to be doing some deep work, which I think would most likely require more than one run-through of PRA v2c.  Experiments with testers have shown that once PRA takes charge and starts making progress, it is easy to seriously derail if you stop the program too soon, and it takes a while to get back to where you were.  At least, that's what we observed with v1.

The issue seems to be the regenerative capacity that fear seems to have.  If it is dominated but not eliminated, then the root will just grow new shoots when the dominating subliminal influence is removed, as it were.

Thank you.  Does there need to be a break taken between PRA v2c runs?  It is unclear in the instructions.

(07-10-2026, 03:03 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-09-2026, 05:04 PM)Lionstrength Wrote: Thank you I appreciate that I was apart of since 2017 but second time it hits differently. I ran PRA for complex PTSD settings instructions to the T for 4 months. Honestly I went through so much and have been focused on alot of otherthins I can't really say expect remembering sleepless nights being like this feels something from PRA. Sorry life was vey chaotic during that time especially with fully time job, being managing partner in a new start up and teaching martial arts (and tested/promoted to 3rd Black Belt) all within those 4 months. I consider thst I'm extermely stubborn to self defeat/destruction especially when it comes to self worth/imposter syndrome. Its more of a feeling like I can do better and study and always have been known to be the guy learn fast, adapt, improvise, and get stuff done but when I want to study something deeply (like academic martial arts side) I sit with a book paper and pen do couple of minutes then fight tooth and nail for procrastination and this is an on going thing since high school. Especially for when I try to have journal practice for self awareness and independent thinking its almost just notes or goals very surface level. Hope this helps some with out getting too much off topic

Given all this, my advice is that you should probably do a couple more 4-month -per run throughs of PTSD Recovery Aid for complex PTSD.Then attempt to do the MLS again.

(07-13-2026, 04:50 AM)Lionstrength Wrote:

(07-10-2026, 03:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: Given all this, my advice is that you should probably do a couple more 4-month -per run throughs of PTSD Recovery Aid for complex PTSD.Then attempt to do the MLS again.

Thank you Shannon now with me being risen by a single mother (broken hope) would I be able to Run AAM Stage 0 a few times? (My ultimate goal is to move out and stay independent within 1 year) so the vision I have is MLS to upskill for finance/business (and other interest of course) then UMSv3 to build strong savings and multiple income streams (close) and have the confidence to be free of financial anxiety and then I plan to do AAM full stage and do alot of deep work during that time. I'm just trying to figure best path and wanted to ask I know PRAv1 is in Stage  0 will it ever be updated to PRAv2?

(07-12-2026, 07:22 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-12-2026, 05:11 AM)kserenyi Wrote: Thank you.  Does there need to be a break taken between PRA v2c runs?  It is unclear in the instructions.

No break is stated because none is required, and it is not useful.  It is in fact counter effective to take a break between the run-throughs.