(02-19-2019, 06:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 06:12 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 03:10 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.

I’ve worked security at a couple of clubs. I’ll let you in on a little secret. The VAST majority of those meatheads who run around starting fights with smaller guys can’t fight worth a crap.

Good. They’ll be easy to take down once I learn self defence then.

(02-19-2019, 06:22 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 06:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 06:12 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 03:10 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.

I’ve worked security at a couple of clubs. I’ll let you in on a little secret. The VAST majority of those meatheads who run around starting fights with smaller guys can’t fight worth a crap.

Good. They’ll be easy to take down once I learn self defence then.

It’s really fun when they’re drunk and you aren’t.

(02-19-2019, 04:58 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Most likely not, Shannon has said that the goal is to not need H&C anymore. It's in E3 because the goal of E3 is specifically for healing.

(02-19-2019, 06:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 06:12 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 03:10 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.

I’ve worked security at a couple of clubs. I’ll let you in on a little secret. The VAST majority of those meatheads who run around starting fights with smaller guys can’t fight worth a crap.

Good. They’ll be easy to take down once I learn self defence then.

(02-19-2019, 09:55 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 06:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 06:12 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 03:10 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 04:52 AM)Infinite Wrote: ETA that I read your post about acting submission to avoid danger on another thread. I used to do that to avoid anger/violence from women. BIATHM and DMSI helped me to be set free from that. There was a woman who once treated me badly at a dinner. I saw her again while I was on DMSI, and while she wanted my attention, I completely ignored her. Later she very friendly are respectfully said hi to me, I responded and kept walking. I treated her like she was beneath me, just like she had treated me at that dinner. I don't believe in always treating people that way, but some people will not respect you otherwise. If I had not been on the subs, I would have been really nice to her at the expense of my own self esteem.

I think my self-esteem is much better than it used to be.

When I used to go to night clubs (which were all new and interesting once I had just moved from the country), my self-esteem was probably quite low. I put up with big, muscular guys pushing me around, and acted submissive for my own safety.

Eventually, I had had enough of being intimidated by guys at nightclubs, and always getting rejected by the women there, so I decided to never go to a nightclub again, and haven’t for several years. I also gave up approaching women for similar reasons, I had had enough of nonstop rejection.

Nowadays, I go to cafes and the local Thai restaurant, and people tend to be much nicer there (compared to night clubs). I’m also working on removing the ‘women only have sex with genetically superior guys’ BS that modern society constantly repeats, and trying to replace it with a ‘everyone is worthy of sex, and everyone has someone out there that would do anything they could to have sex with you, etc’ paradigm that is much healthier and more empowering.

I’ve worked security at a couple of clubs. I’ll let you in on a little secret. The VAST majority of those meatheads who run around starting fights with smaller guys can’t fight worth a crap.

Good. They’ll be easy to take down once I learn self defence then.

Why would you be talking about taking guys down when you're supposed to be learning "Self defense?" (you know to defend yourself against being attacked) sounds to me you are planning to attack or start trouble rather than using it for what it's for

Not to be critical or anything but I can feel the quality of this thread going down already. Benjamin I hope you're watching and I hope you can keep this thread to discussing Shannon's work and not let it go into countless worthless chatter like previously before someone was banned.

(02-19-2019, 10:27 PM)AriGold Wrote: So you care more about fighting than getting the women?

(02-19-2019, 07:40 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 04:58 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Most likely not, Shannon has said that the goal is to not need H&C anymore. It's in E3 because the goal of E3 is specifically for healing.

Well i mean thats kinda related to my point, theres a difference between needing it to achieve the goal of getting laid, and wanting it so that the user can H&C while benefitting from the FRM and all other effects of DMSI, rather than having to choose to do DMSI or E3