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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Diana - 02-12-2019
(02-11-2019, 07:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: Crying easily is usually one of the following: extreme emotional sensitivity, a tendency to see crying as a way to get people to do what you want them to do, or both. E2/E3 is going to be good for healing past emotional hurts and traumas and calming your emotional pains, making you better able to cope with what would have made you cry in the past.
MLS is so different a goal that we don't mix the two as they would work against each other trying to achieve their individual goals.
Okay, my learning problem is due of my lack motivation, before all of this, i used to be a bullied student, and it decreases my motivation to live,
If i change the question to be, "Is there any subliminal that is capable to boost my motivation and get rid of my high emotional sensitivity?
Maybe there is one closest subliminal to go?
Oh ya, i have used the Free Absolute Self Confidence on the website,
and i find that subliminal help me to cure my high emotional sensitivity,
When people say a negative thing to me, i handle it calm, and be a let it flow person,
Maybe from that experiences, i can conclude that,
My learning problem due of my low motivation
My negative side of extreme emotional sensitivity can be cured by something that enhance my confidence,
I find searching for the answer of my question is quite exciting lol,
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 02-12-2019
Especially if you were bullied, then emotional healing is what you're looking for. So i'd say either continue EPRHA1 until E3 comes out and then goto that as it will be significantly more powerful and it can't even be compared. ASC does help with confidence, but if you have issues like bullying that need healing it can sometimes be it's just trying to stack that on top. EPRHA is working on healing it. And will also help with Self Esteem and Confidence, both also come naturally from being more 'healed'.
For an idea you can see the difference with the free version and E2 found at http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/emotional-pain-relief-healing-aid-2-0/
Though that won't necessarily get you motivated because you'll be in healing mode.
Or if you want to tackle it all at once, and much more then Life Tune Up that just come out. http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/life-tune-up-4-0-5-5g-type-abcd/
That will heal you emotionally and also give you motivation since it has USLM and UMOP in it.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Michaliszp - 02-13-2019
Repost:
Hello @Shannon , my girlfriend's kid is 5 years old and she is not talking yet. She understands Russian only. She is watching cartoons and listening to English songs.
I have been putting for her the last 2 weeks the sleep aid. The nights she is listening to it, she is sleeping throughout the night. The nights she is not, she is waking up in the night.
I am assuming that she will be able to understand other sub's as well. I was thinking to get for her the MLS since she is having logotherapy lessons with the hope that it will help her to speak or the MIS since she is getting sick very often. What are your thoughts? Is there something else that you would recommend.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Username - 02-13-2019
(02-12-2019, 10:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-12-2019, 08:46 AM)Username Wrote: @Shannon
You said few pages back:"There's nothing wrong with that. I'm closer now to a balance between the two, but I am definitely an introvert, as I need time alone to recharge; dealing with people - especially in person - eventually exhausts me."
This is a great example, how your own brain needs much more adjustment... Introversion is just a label to the deeper processes that are going on, not a hardwired in your brain. Extraversion is the norm, but if you grow up surrounded by negative people... You just learn to close up. Underneath is the same old friend... Fear... Communicating with other people is associated with negative, and it is exhausting, cause running on fear just needs more energy. People have a fear of expressing certain emotions and so they are carrying around that big bag of stuff, that otherwise wouldn't be there... My humble suggestion would be to use your own work to deal with it.
But Im sure your subc comes up with all the great excuses not to... Haha :p... Cause that quote just sounds like a nice little rationalization to avoid seeing things as they are, to begin with.
Where do you come up with "extraversion is the norm"? There are two poles here, it's not a monopole. The norm is a point on a spectrum between the two.
You seem to be giving me some arrogant snark here. You can keep it. You don't know everything you think you know.
Nope, it's not about knowing... But understanding. What's behind labels of language. There are no poles or spectrum in the brain, only patterns of behavior. And extraversion is more healthy than the opposite. If you chain your dog and beat him every day, he's going to be a one hell of a mean and angry dog, who doesn't trust humans and sees them as enemies. And it's completely normal reaction to the environment. It's the same way with introverts, they have formed an idea, that expressing oneself to other people is a "hot stove" . So they constantly need to find other outlets and recharge them. And your reaction was quite predictable... a typical introvert's defensive way of interpreting and handling everything. But obviously, I'm just telling you, how I see things.... your behavior and choices your own business. I was just hoping that you, of all people, were a bit more open minded about it.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - terry44 - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 02:35 AM)Username Wrote:(02-12-2019, 10:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-12-2019, 08:46 AM)Username Wrote: @Shannon
You said few pages back:"There's nothing wrong with that. I'm closer now to a balance between the two, but I am definitely an introvert, as I need time alone to recharge; dealing with people - especially in person - eventually exhausts me."
This is a great example, how your own brain needs much more adjustment... Introversion is just a label to the deeper processes that are going on, not a hardwired in your brain. Extraversion is the norm, but if you grow up surrounded by negative people... You just learn to close up. Underneath is the same old friend... Fear... Communicating with other people is associated with negative, and it is exhausting, cause running on fear just needs more energy. People have a fear of expressing certain emotions and so they are carrying around that big bag of stuff, that otherwise wouldn't be there... My humble suggestion would be to use your own work to deal with it.
But Im sure your subc comes up with all the great excuses not to... Haha :p... Cause that quote just sounds like a nice little rationalization to avoid seeing things as they are, to begin with.
Where do you come up with "extraversion is the norm"? There are two poles here, it's not a monopole. The norm is a point on a spectrum between the two.
You seem to be giving me some arrogant snark here. You can keep it. You don't know everything you think you know.
Nope, it's not about knowing... But understanding. What's behind labels of language. There are no poles or spectrum in the brain, only patterns of behavior. And extraversion is more healthy than the opposite. If you chain your dog and beat him every day, he's going to be a one hell of a mean and angry dog, who doesn't trust humans and sees them as enemies. And it's completely normal reaction to the environment. It's the same way with introverts, they have formed an idea, that expressing oneself to other people is a "hot stove" . So they constantly need to find other outlets and recharge them. And your reaction was quite predictable... a typical introvert's defensive way of interpreting and handling everything. But obviously, I'm just telling you, how I see things.... your behavior and choices your own business. I was just hoping that you, of all people, were a bit more open minded about it.
Your post seems to be full of hubris. The environment AND genes have a huge effect. We aren't all just blank slates when we are born, although subs and experience can have a big influence.
https://www.livescience.com/47288-twin-study-importance-of-genetics.html
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-13-2019
(02-12-2019, 09:34 PM)dissonance Wrote:(02-12-2019, 01:04 PM)THolt Wrote:(02-12-2019, 01:01 PM)Minititan Wrote: After LTU has had the Magnus update will we see DMSI get a 3.3.2 with the updated skeleton script?
Hopefully its LTU 5.0, USLM4, E3, and the other offshoot programs of LTU and alos UMS.
So now we're also making 5.0 after 4.1? I'm itching for some E3 :O
We are making 5.0 instead of 4.1. Finishing Magnus Engine is a huge upgrade.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-13-2019
(02-12-2019, 10:26 PM)Diana Wrote:(02-11-2019, 07:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: Crying easily is usually one of the following: extreme emotional sensitivity, a tendency to see crying as a way to get people to do what you want them to do, or both. E2/E3 is going to be good for healing past emotional hurts and traumas and calming your emotional pains, making you better able to cope with what would have made you cry in the past.
MLS is so different a goal that we don't mix the two as they would work against each other trying to achieve their individual goals.
Okay, my learning problem is due of my lack motivation, before all of this, i used to be a bullied student, and it decreases my motivation to live,
If i change the question to be, "Is there any subliminal that is capable to boost my motivation and get rid of my high emotional sensitivity?
Maybe there is one closest subliminal to go?
Oh ya, i have used the Free Absolute Self Confidence on the website,
and i find that subliminal help me to cure my high emotional sensitivity,
When people say a negative thing to me, i handle it calm, and be a let it flow person,
Maybe from that experiences, i can conclude that,
My learning problem due of my low motivation
My negative side of extreme emotional sensitivity can be cured by something that enhance my confidence,
I find searching for the answer of my question is quite exciting lol,
I agree with what Ben said. Also, LTU 4.0/5.0 have auric shielding, which many people with extreme emotional sensitivity find very helpful for dealing with their environment because it allows them to filter out a lot of the painful or uncomfortable experiences and the negativity. I'll be releasing auric shielding as a stand alone in the future, but if your crying easily comes from always being overloaded emotionally, or so sensitive that just being around others is that uncomfortable, the auric shield will help.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 12:37 AM)Michaliszp Wrote: Repost:
Hello @Shannon , my girlfriend's kid is 5 years old and she is not talking yet. She understands Russian only. She is watching cartoons and listening to English songs.
I have been putting for her the last 2 weeks the sleep aid. The nights she is listening to it, she is sleeping throughout the night. The nights she is not, she is waking up in the night.
I am assuming that she will be able to understand other sub's as well. I was thinking to get for her the MLS since she is having logotherapy lessons with the hope that it will help her to speak or the MIS since she is getting sick very often. What are your thoughts? Is there something else that you would recommend.
I already answered this in your original posting thread, didn't I?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 02-13-2019
With the upgrade to LTU5, will there be a price upgrade at the same time or somewhere later?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - 4Kingdoms - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 12:37 AM)Michaliszp Wrote: Repost:
Hello @Shannon , my girlfriend's kid is 5 years old and she is not talking yet. She understands Russian only. She is watching cartoons and listening to English songs.
I have been putting for her the last 2 weeks the sleep aid. The nights she is listening to it, she is sleeping throughout the night. The nights she is not, she is waking up in the night.
I am assuming that she will be able to understand other sub's as well. I was thinking to get for her the MLS since she is having logotherapy lessons with the hope that it will help her to speak or the MIS since she is getting sick very often. What are your thoughts? Is there something else that you would recommend.
(02-13-2019, 05:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: I already answered this in your original posting thread, didn't I?
@Shannon
This was the original post https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Journals-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion-Volume-3-?pid=216193#pid216193 and you did answer it, but it disappeared!!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - CatMan - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 05:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: We are making 5.0 instead of 4.1. Finishing Magnus Engine is a huge upgrade.
Congratulations on this achievement in a new version number. Even if of course I don't fully grasp the Magnus Engine's purpose and intricacies of implementing it into the program. It seems notable enough of an upgrade for a new version number, which is a surprise.
Having said that, where does this leave us with DMSI V3.3.2/DMSI V3.4? Is that going to be made soon, after LTU 5.0's release? Since DMSI is the 6G test bed, stands to reason this new material will need to be tested asap along side the rest of the 6G tech included in the test bed program. Since this is about implementing that M.E. aspect and then slightly tweaking FRM to V4.5 for it as you've described, sounds like it wouldn't be a massive undertaking, compared to V3.3.1 itself anyway. I ask about this re-release coming soon because I read your post on types of resistance the other day and noticed a few of them I may be the reason for posting of, lol! And you've stated you are still looking at ways to deal with those types etc. so this could be a good step to get more of that info on those types of resistance, or even surpass them finally!
So far I've had a couple of dreams seeming quite relevant to the program indeed. Many very strange and seemingly irrelevant to the script and bizarre which is always the case on this for me for some weird reason, lmao. Including one last night I still don't get the purpose of XD. Some major exhaustion lately even during the 3 day break which was unexpected. Not sure about much else, if anything IS going on, it would be too inconsistent or marginal to really notice I suppose. Still trucking along though! I haven't worked myself up to journaling just yet, although I feel a bit guilty about that because there doesn't seem to be much DMSI journaling now. I may have to, even if I'm not sure I want to anymore, purely to help bolster that in time, as you need feedback obviously.
Anyway, thank you for your time, Shannon.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Hanpan - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 05:36 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-12-2019, 09:34 PM)dissonance Wrote:(02-12-2019, 01:04 PM)THolt Wrote:(02-12-2019, 01:01 PM)Minititan Wrote: After LTU has had the Magnus update will we see DMSI get a 3.3.2 with the updated skeleton script?
Hopefully its LTU 5.0, USLM4, E3, and the other offshoot programs of LTU and alos UMS.
So now we're also making 5.0 after 4.1? I'm itching for some E3 :O
We are making 5.0 instead of 4.1. Finishing Magnus Engine is a huge upgrade.
Any estimate on when 5.0 will be released ? I know you're busy AF - just wanted to know if I should stay up tonight waiting for it.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 02:35 AM)Username Wrote:(02-12-2019, 10:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-12-2019, 08:46 AM)Username Wrote: @Shannon
You said few pages back:"There's nothing wrong with that. I'm closer now to a balance between the two, but I am definitely an introvert, as I need time alone to recharge; dealing with people - especially in person - eventually exhausts me."
This is a great example, how your own brain needs much more adjustment... Introversion is just a label to the deeper processes that are going on, not a hardwired in your brain. Extraversion is the norm, but if you grow up surrounded by negative people... You just learn to close up. Underneath is the same old friend... Fear... Communicating with other people is associated with negative, and it is exhausting, cause running on fear just needs more energy. People have a fear of expressing certain emotions and so they are carrying around that big bag of stuff, that otherwise wouldn't be there... My humble suggestion would be to use your own work to deal with it.
But Im sure your subc comes up with all the great excuses not to... Haha :p... Cause that quote just sounds like a nice little rationalization to avoid seeing things as they are, to begin with.
Where do you come up with "extraversion is the norm"? There are two poles here, it's not a monopole. The norm is a point on a spectrum between the two.
You seem to be giving me some arrogant snark here. You can keep it. You don't know everything you think you know.
Nope, it's not about knowing... But understanding. What's behind labels of language. There are no poles or spectrum in the brain, only patterns of behavior. And extraversion is more healthy than the opposite. If you chain your dog and beat him every day, he's going to be a one hell of a mean and angry dog, who doesn't trust humans and sees them as enemies. And it's completely normal reaction to the environment. It's the same way with introverts, they have formed an idea, that expressing oneself to other people is a "hot stove" . So they constantly need to find other outlets and recharge them. And your reaction was quite predictable... a typical introvert's defensive way of interpreting and handling everything. But obviously, I'm just telling you, how I see things.... your behavior and choices your own business. I was just hoping that you, of all people, were a bit more open minded about it.
You sound like someone I know who has a Ph.D. in psychology, and thinks she knows everything. So much so, in fact that she believes that most of the psychological world is wrong, because she refuses to believe there is a subconscious mind. She's convinced that there is no way I could be doing what I am doing and have been doing since long before I met her in 2006 because of that.
You started off with snarky arrogant comment that communicated that you thought you were smarter/better/better educated than me because I didn't see things your way. Now you're claiming that your way is the only way, and playing the
Quote:But obviously, I'm just telling you, how I see things.... your behavior and choices your own business. I was just hoping that you, of all people, were a bit more open minded about it.card. Which is basically saying, "I'm right, and obviously, if you don't think so, you're proving my point that your knowledge and understanding is inferior."
Quote:And extraversion is more healthy than the opposite.
That is debatable, especially since it is very likely an innate trait of certain personality types to be strongly receptive and introverted as a result. Sounds like you're an extrovert who has no real understanding of introversion, but is looking through a window at it spouting what someone else told you.
Quote:There are no poles or spectrum in the brain, only patterns of behavior.
The brain isn't what we are talking about here, we are talking about the awareness and how it expresses itself and deals with it's environment. The awareness isn't physical, and it uses the physical brain as a focal point into the physical reality of the body. The poles and spectrums are what we can use to describe the behavior, choices and level of introversion or extroversion. Patterns of behavior and emotional states and responses fall onto a spectrum between possible extremes of expression. One isn't 100% introverted or 100% extroverted, or 100% gay or 100% straight, or 100% anything. We are, and our experiences, awarenesses and expressions and reactions are, a complex mix of many factors and variables being at some point between two possible extremes.
Quote:It's the same way with introverts, they have formed an idea, that expressing oneself to other people is a "hot stove" .
That is certainly possible for some, but not all cases of introversion are explained like that. There are those introverts for whom communicating with and dealing with others is simply more exhausting than for others. It requires a lot more effort and energy to make ourselves understood by others. In many cases, regardless of energy expended or effort, it doesn't work. Introverts of this sort commonly withdraw because they can't find a way to be understood, and because it is exhausting for them to do so. It also deals with levels of frustration in dealing with others as a result, and learning that getting upset at that frustration is not publicly acceptable because, again, nobody understands.
Quote:So they constantly need to find other outlets and recharge them.
When I need to recharge it's because I have been around people who require a lot of effort and energy to deal with. It's usually a situation where they are draining my energy in some way, grating on my nerves, have no understanding of what I am dealing with, or require an unusually large amount of effort on my part to make them comprehend what I am trying to communicate. Putting up with this situation is expensive and exhausting energy-wise. I'm sure it's true for many introverts. I would say you seem to have a very poor understanding of introverts.
Quote:And your reaction was quite predictable... a typical introvert's defensive way of interpreting and handling everything.
My reaction was indeed predictable, because it's how a normal person would react to asinine snarky comments.
What you fail to realize is that what you state as fact is a theory. It may apply to some, but it does not apply to everyone. And it obviously does not come from the point of view of having experienced what life is like from the point of view of having been more introverted than extroverted.
Just for your information, though, I socialize a lot. I know, by name, and they know me by name, the majority of the servers in my city, and a number of servers in nearby cities. Going out to eat dinner is typically my only chance to socialize with someone other than my gf because I work so much. So when I go out to eat, I talk to the people around me and enjoy the company of the staff of the restaurant I attend. I am not exactly a major introvert. It's pretty well balanced. I used to be a lot more introverted, but over the years I have overcome a lot of the fears that led to that and now I'm freer to socialize and express myself. That doesn't mean I still don't have the issues with exhaustion when I deal with people who require a lot of extra energy to deal with, for those reasons listed above.
Introversion and extroversion are expressions of potentials inherent in the receptive or expressive components of the personality as they are being expressed as a conglomerate whole. As these parts are expressed more or less, or their polarity is shifted to a different polarity, one may become more or less introverted or extroverted.
But you would know that, because you know introverts so well, wouldn't you.
Take a look at how you are coming across to others. You come across as being arrogant and snarky with this stuff. Maybe you understand what you've been taught, but there's more out there than just that.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 02-13-2019
(02-13-2019, 05:46 AM)Shawn Wrote: With the upgrade to LTU5, will there be a price upgrade at the same time or somewhere later?
It will stay the same for the time being.